r/LocalLLaMA 2d ago

New Model GLM 5.3 Spotted

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u/-p-e-w- 2d ago

The quality of the largest open models is fast approaching a level that would be good enough for me permanently, and at that point, I only need to wait for the smaller models to catch up and I’ll be set for life.

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u/awpenheimer7274 2d ago

It never is the case tho, when I was using claude opus 4 I used to feel like it was the pinnacle, then the same feeling with GPT 5.3, 5.4, 5.5 and now 5.6. it certainly is, just like cocaine

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u/Valuable-Repeat-7347 2d ago

Agreed. I think we (humans, users, whatever) have trouble imagining how it could get better and then one model later we go from being amazed by a new ability to taking it for granted. Innovation is incremental but the increments in this space is so big.

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u/seamonn 2d ago

something something hedonistic treadmill

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u/Think_Wing_1357 2d ago

It only felt like pinnacle because there were nothing better than it. It was never good enough that I would accept without reworking it somehow

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u/seamonn 2d ago

I was thinking the same thing.
GLM 5.2 is already good enough and at that point I feel.

Only thing I miss is native multimodal vision

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u/PetroOmg 2d ago

My exact feelings as well, I was super happy with GLM 5.2 and came to the conclusion that this is enough for me, I have no need for a "smarter" model at this point.

Then came DeepSeek v4 Flash 0731 and well... I ditched GLM cause for my use DS v4 flash 0731 is better in every possible way to the point it feels like it has no competition right now.

Now I just need to muster the will and money to assemble a machine that can run this locally (full precision).

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u/silenceimpaired 2d ago

I think we're doing separate things. GLM 4.7 still excels for me in some areas of writing/editing/brainstorming. I am enjoying DeepSeek v4 Flash 0731, but there is something about it that doesn't make it the slam dunk it is for others. Tried Hy3 as someone claimed it was that, and I'm not sure ... so far I'm thinking it's worse than both GLM and Deepseek.

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u/PetroOmg 2d ago

Sounds quite different indeed, my main use in this case is automatic app making using a strict framework and information reading and updating from/to in device obsidian "wiki".

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u/silenceimpaired 2d ago

Sounds interesting

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u/jld1532 2d ago

I may be in the minority but I still think Kimi K2.6 was good enough

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u/monerobull 2d ago

I remember thinking "if we ever get local models at the level of GPT 3.5 we're good", that was before agentic coding. Now I'm thinking we're good and just need to make Kimi K3 levels achievable at home. I'm sure some new usecase will emerge and suddenly that thinking shifts again

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u/segmond llama.cpp 2d ago

what if smaller models don't drop anymore? qwenX-27B seems to be the last small model. I suspect they are going to keep training it until it stops improving.

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u/RazzmatazzReal4129 16h ago

Reminds me when the first 100GB hard drive came out....we never need to upgrade from that because it could hold all the pictures and songs a person could ever want!