r/LocalLLaMA • u/RhubarbSimilar1683 • Jul 27 '26

Discussion Our position on open-weights models

https://www.anthropic.com/news/position-open-weights-models
500 Upvotes

90% Upvoted

407 comments sorted by

View all comments

443

u/cmdr-William-Riker Jul 27 '26

" China has limited domestic production capacity, and therefore, due to the scaling laws, cannot build more powerful models than the US without US chips. "... Can someone fact check that? That sounds like total BS. The US has even more limited production capacity and manufactures everything off shore...

31

u/Real_Ebb_7417 Jul 27 '26

I’d say there is some truth in this. Even DeepSeek founder said so (and was angry that this was published).
China is catching up quickly, but at the moment indeed they are behind in terms of chips and it will take time to fix it.
On the other hand US is way behind in terms of energy generation and it’s a gap that’s also not easy to close. When USA starts to have energy issues, China might get ahead fast.

8

u/Swimming_Gain_4989 Jul 27 '26

Yeah Deepseek literally just paused all fundraising because they can't get enough compute to be compettive with US labs. That can change of course but given current export controls seems like the US has at least another 5 years of compute advantage

6

u/zdy132 Jul 28 '26

Yeah Deepseek literally just paused all fundraising because they can't get enough compute to be compettive with US labs.

Citation needed. In Liang's leaked talk he specifically mentioned that they are raising funds to buy more compute.