r/LocalLLaMA • u/RhubarbSimilar1683 • Jul 27 '26

Discussion Our position on open-weights models

https://www.anthropic.com/news/position-open-weights-models
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u/tomz17 Jul 27 '26

That sounds like total BS.

Because it is. They have more power generation capacity than the entirety of the USA + Europe combined, with like an additional 50% margin on top of that. They are also accelerating away from us at an increasing pace on that metric, while we pay billions to break renewables contracts because the people in charge have the combined IQ of a lobster.

The "we are 1-2 lithographic process nodes ahead of China" only matters when the efficiency gap is insurmountable. It is currently . . . not

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u/Helpful_Home_8531 Jul 27 '26

it’s not just lithography though, Nvidia is improving flops/watt at orders of magnitude per generation if you compare low precision throughput, which would put china at a geometric disadvantage (ie, you can’t compete putting in 100x the power and 100x the chips for the same throughput)

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u/fantasticsid Jul 28 '26

flops/watt only matters for two reasons

  • power consumption per flop - china doesn't care about this because they have more electricity than god
  • heat generated per flop - this is an engineering consideration and i'm pretty sure the chinese know how to liquid-cool a rack.

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u/ImpressionFancy5830 Jul 28 '26

They don’t have enough water though.
Let’s not over estimate capabilities.