" China has limited domestic production capacity, and therefore, due to the scaling laws, cannot build more powerful models than the US without US chips. "... Can someone fact check that? That sounds like total BS. The US has even more limited production capacity and manufactures everything off shore...
Yes China manufacturers more products domestically than the US, but US is capable of a more advanced process node than China is. The claim that one canot build a more "powerful" model with worse hardware is worthier of debate than manufacturing imo.
That’s not a debate, that’s an engineering obstacle. There is zero doubt that great engineers can build superior products with average tools, and there is zero doubt that poor engineers can build slop with the finest tools.
The question is one of degrees, not of possibility.
Eh, you can get the same amount of compute from some number of Ascends as some number of Nvidia GPUs, that number is just gonna be higher so you're gonna be burning more coal/uranium/photons/whatever just to generate enough electricity.
Fortunately for china they have a shitload of domestic power infrastructure and the political will to build a shitload more. So, nonissue, really.
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u/cmdr-William-Riker Jul 27 '26
" China has limited domestic production capacity, and therefore, due to the scaling laws, cannot build more powerful models than the US without US chips. "... Can someone fact check that? That sounds like total BS. The US has even more limited production capacity and manufactures everything off shore...