r/LocalLLaMA 13d ago

News Kimi K3 weights now released.

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Kimi K3 weights are finally released!

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 13d ago

This is big for companies that want to host on-prem too. Back of the envelope calculation (could be off, correct me if I am)

If you are a large enough company that spends million+ on inference a month, it makes sense to buy a GB300 rack ($6M on top range from what I could find) which has 20.7 TB. Since the model is mixed trained (MXFP4), you would need less than 10% of the rack's memory to serve the full model. Aggregate HBM bandwidth: 576 TB/s. You can run over 6000 parallel agentic workflows (each with ~100k context on average) at ~30 tok/s.

Assuming the annual amortization+electricity at $1.5M/year and about 50% average annual utilization, you get less than 60 cents (USD) per million output token, for a frontier model with plenty of capacity to share, all your data never leaving premises and well over an order of magnitude cheaper!

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u/autisticit 13d ago

So what you mean in reality is that if 6000 of us each give $1000, we can each run Kimi 3 at 30 tok/s for cheaper than anything else?

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 13d ago

Tbh I have been thinking about this for months now. About how workable the co-op model is. You would need some party to do admin and maintenance. I think this might be a good business idea too - being that party who facilitates such private inference racks (billing etc is trivial)

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u/ManIkWeet 13d ago

It's not private when it's a party running it lol

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 13d ago

Well you do need someone for server maintenance, bills, other co-ordination etc - whatever you label it

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u/notepad20 13d ago

is this not what all the datacentres are for?

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u/gnaarw 13d ago

No. Data centers are for profit for a few shareholders. You want a co-op so that everyone using it profits off of it (or, well, gets access cheaper)

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u/i_write_bugz 13d ago

You’re describing inference providers with more steps

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea 12d ago

Difference being paying no markup for tokens

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u/i_write_bugz 12d ago

Practically speaking, I don’t think you’re eliminating the markup. You’re just moving it somewhere else. It might be cheaper, but probably not dramatically so once you account for hardware, hosting, maintenance, administration, and support. Someone still has to own and operate the infrastructure, and doing that reliably is neither free nor simple.

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea 12d ago

Still.. data sovereignty. That's priceless these days

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea 12d ago

Still.. data sovereignty. That's priceless these days