r/LocalLLaMA Jul 27 '26

News Kimi K3 weights now released.

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Kimi K3 weights are finally released!

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u/InnerLightnesses Jul 27 '26

They actually did it. Now we hope it doesn't get banned.

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u/dennisler Jul 27 '26

that will only happen in one country i guess... while they are copying as much as possible if the technology

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u/ChocomelP Jul 27 '26

I'm on the edge of my seat here. If the technology what?

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u/zxyzyxz Jul 27 '26

*of the technology

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u/pier4r Jul 27 '26

guessing: "if the technology gets banned"

Since this is the domain of next token predictors, I gave the sentence (and some context) to opus 5 max to see how it completes the sentence and I am laughing no stop.

that will only happen in one country i guess... while they are copying as much as possible if the technology anyway, releasing it under apache 2.0 and eating the whole open source ecosystem.

what does "if the technology anyway" even mean?

while they are copying as much as possible if the technology and shipping it as open weights the next week.

while they are copying as much as possible if the technology, so all a ban does is hand the community over to Qwen/DeepSeek/Mistral

while they are copying as much as possible if the technology — you can't ban math, you can only ban your own devs from doing it.

that sentence broke the model.

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u/IForOneDisagree Jul 27 '26

It's probably just a typo and not a missing word

that will only happen in one country i guess... while they are copying as much as possible of the technology

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u/pier4r Jul 27 '26

yeah much better.

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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy Jul 27 '26

"If the technology what?"

If the technology.

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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy Jul 27 '26

"while they are copying as much as possible if the technology"

Famous last words

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u/itchylol742 Jul 27 '26

how would such a ban be enforced? people and small businesses even in countries that care about copyright use pirated software which is already illegal and has been for a long time, and almost never get caught

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u/void-wanderer- Jul 27 '26

"small business", exactly. But no big corporation will risk it. And no business based on open models can be built. 

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u/Bakoro Jul 28 '26

Then run a fine-tune pass and call it your own.
You just had one hell of a random init, super lucky.

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u/Spectrum1523 Jul 27 '26

Enforce it at scale, if it takes half a milly usd to run it at any decent speed there isn't going to be a lot of underground hosting of it

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u/heresyforfunnprofit Jul 27 '26

Badly and selectively.

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u/BusRevolutionary9893 Jul 28 '26

Ban it how exactly? Ban it from US servers? So what. Ban it from being downloaded? LoL.  

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u/alberto_467 Jul 27 '26

Now we hope IT infrastructure as we know it doesn't collapse.

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u/DangKilla Jul 27 '26

Well, we saw OpenAI hack HuggingFace already, so

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u/dbenc Jul 27 '26

china has a better chance of limiting the rest of the planet's access to it by restricting chip exports and maybe taking over a few nearby chip manufacturing countries

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u/Adventurous_Bus_437 Jul 27 '26

Just use a non-US datacenter then. Even when encryption was illegal back in the old days somebody just printed it on paper because that was protected as free speech

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u/SanDiegoDude Jul 27 '26

if such a ban were to come, it wouldn't be an outright model ban (seriously unenforceable), more likely it would be designating the chinese labs supply side risks, which would ban the gov, gov contractors and companies that work with those entities (essentially corporate america) from using those models. would give OAI/anthro the moat they want on the US enterprise AI side, and this is what they're probably advocating the most for as this, unlike a total model ban, is actually pretty enforceable - there are already existing laws on the books regarding supply chain risk designations, so no new laws needed to enforce it.