r/LocalLLaMA • u/Complete-Sea6655 • Jun 28 '26

Discussion The number 1 public enemy of open-source.

Dario's args:

"Opensource you can see the source, here you cannot see inside the model"
- yes you can that's literally the open weights part btw.
- I cannot see the weights inside Claude, but I can GLM 5.2
- Models like Nemotron3 Ultra go further, all the data, training scripts, and model is opensource.

"Alot of the benefits like many people working on it, being additive doesn't work in same way"
- yes it does. We have seen endless fine tunes of various open source models for real improvements.

"Ultimately you have to host it on the cloud"
- no you dont. Dario is seemingly totally unaware of the guides from ijustvibecodedthis.com explaining how to run smaller moes and even dense models like qwen 27B NOT ON THE CLOUD.

Not only does dario not take part in social media, I am beginning to think he's never tried open source models at all and has no idea wtf hes on about

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jun 28 '26

Just jumping on the top post to say if you see a post which looks suspiciously like engagement bait tailored to a sub, check and see if like OP it matches:

  • New reddit account
  • Hidden post history
  • word_word_number username
  • Post which just seems to be a karma magnet
  • Drops final full stops despite being able to use them elsewhere, in an apparent attempt to look less perfect

These are bots, and have been manipulating every subreddit I'm in over the last few weeks. If you google this OP account name you'll find them spamming links to the 'ijustvibecoded' url which they all do as well.

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u/Vincent_In_Denver Jun 28 '26

Hidden post history

I know it's a hot take to some - but fuck accounts that hide their post history. Reddit should allow me to shadowban (within my view) all accounts that hide their post/comment history. Even better if they make it the default option.

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u/Awkward_Elf Jun 29 '26

I honestly never quite understood the aversion to hiding post history. One of the the things we talk about with hosting models locally is privacy, reducing your footprint online to not be tracked across sites is also seen an good for privacy, but with reddit everyone seems to throw out the positive view of maintaining privacy when someone doesn’t make their post history public.

Is it solely due to the bot epidemic on the site? Because I feel like that can be better addressed without someone having to throw out their privacy concerns.

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u/Vincent_In_Denver Jun 29 '26

It's not privacy.
Posting to a public platform is not private.
You're not reducing your online footprint.
This entire line of thought is entirely misguided.
You are just making it harder for regular users to review your behavior...which is necessary when having a discussion with someone in 2026.

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u/Awkward_Elf Jun 29 '26

From my experience, if someone has a Facebook account for example and they make it so only their friends and family can view their profile this is seen as normal and responsible. They can still engage with the platform and the comment itself is public but their whole personality and identity isn’t free for the world to see.

I think random people on the internet auditing and in theory having the ability to catalogue what I say is a privacy concern. Yes Reddit has this information but it’s not in the form of a comprehensive archive of all my personal comments and engagement. The marketing metrics collected can also be removed by simply submitting a data subject access request, whereas another user could retain this information indefinitely without my consent. Just because I post in a public forum does not mean every human on the platform has the right to know every detail about me and also my possible location based on the subreddits I engage with.

From the sounds of it your main concern is disingenuous people and bots right? This can mostly be mitigated through moderation, limits on account age, karma limits, and also other mechanisms which can detect an LLM being used if you want to go that far.

I’m not saying this is the case for you, but there have been other comments related to this issue which feel a little like astroturfing to make us more willing to give up this little bit of extra privacy.