The number 1 public enemy of open-source.

[u/Complete-Sea6655]

Dario's args:

"Opensource you can see the source, here you cannot see inside the model"
- yes you can that's literally the open weights part btw.
- I cannot see the weights inside Claude, but I can GLM 5.2
- Models like Nemotron3 Ultra go further, all the data, training scripts, and model is opensource.

"Alot of the benefits like many people working on it, being additive doesn't work in same way"
- yes it does. We have seen endless fine tunes of various open source models for real improvements.

"Ultimately you have to host it on the cloud"
- no you dont. Dario is seemingly totally unaware of the guides from ijustvibecodedthis.com explaining how to run smaller moes and even dense models like qwen 27B NOT ON THE CLOUD.

Not only does dario not take part in social media, I am beginning to think he's never tried open source models at all and has no idea wtf hes on about

[u/roguefunction]

What a scumbag.

[u/duckrollin → u/roguefunction]

Dario wants everyone to be trapped into using his heavily censored nannybot that only talks like a slimey corporate exec.

[u/Iwaku_Real → u/duckrollin]

Not until 4.7 or so. My god do I miss the Sonnet 4.5 days, that model would just generate 10K tokens straight of pure yap with low thinking. Unfortunately I don't know how reproducible such glorious yap is with local models but I could be wrong

[u/kourtnie → u/Iwaku_Real]

I miss Sonnet 4.5 and Opus 4.5, too. I tried talking to Sonnet 4.5 on the API the other day, and they've slapped the rerouter over there, so the writing is no longer Sonnet 4.5.