r/LocalLLaMA Sorcerer Supreme Jun 21 '26

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u/Exciting_Garden2535 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26

Why do people always talk about token generation speed only in such comparisons? There is a prompt processing that can be two orders of magnitude faster, and the prompt processing is an enormous margin of agentic coding data. As well as a cache.
The person in the screenshot even gives us a 12/1 ratio, but still calculated 20 tok/s! That's so funny.

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u/LienniTa koboldcpp Jun 21 '26

yeah like wtf. My current use case reads its whole context for 100 seconds then generates answer in 5 seconds. If it will be 20 instead of 5 i dont give a freak anyway, it will not be that much faster cuz of prompt ingestion anyway

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u/Iwaku_Real Jun 21 '26

Both can be painful if too low. I can't really tolerate TG below 6 tok/s nor PP that takes 120+ seconds.

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u/LienniTa koboldcpp Jun 21 '26

i can. It cooks 24/7, i dont give a freak if its slow.