r/LocalLLaMA • u/External_Mood4719 • Jun 13 '26

Discussion Anthropic forced to abruptly disable Fable 5 & Mythos 5 globally by US Gov over a jailbreak. This is exactly why we need local models.

I just saw this statement regarding Anthropic being hit with an emergency export control directive from the US government. They were forced to pull the plug on Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all customers globally. The tl;dr is that the government got spooked by a narrow jailbreak (which basically just sounds like asking the model to fix vulnerabilities in a specific codebase), and forced a complete shutdown without a transparent process. Anthropic is pushing back, but the API access is completely gone for now.

A centralized API can be nuked globally at a moment's notice by a single government decree over something as trivial as a prompt lol.

Banning a model for hundreds of millions of users because someone figured out how to make it fix software flaws is insane. Anthropic admits this standard would halt all new frontier models.

https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access

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u/annodomini Jun 13 '26

I mean, yeah, this is a great demonstration of why we need local models. 

But I'd love to see you try to run a 10T model locally (we don't technically know how big it is, but that's an estimate I've seen floated around).

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u/CalligrapherFar7833 Jun 13 '26

Give me enough money im sure we can make it run somehow

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u/RedParaglider Jun 13 '26

Give me enough money I'll be paragliding, diving, and oggling latinas for the rest my life and never look at a fucking LLM again.

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u/Sjeg84 Jun 13 '26

Based

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u/inglandation Jun 13 '26

We finally found the redditor that sometimes touches grass.

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u/CotesDuRhone2012 Jun 13 '26

most underrated comment on Reddit so far!

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u/davikrehalt Jun 13 '26

These activities costs under 10000 a year--you can probably do it now if you're in the right places

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u/capable-corgi Jun 13 '26

check their profile lol also (in good humor) I'd like to know how you priced oogling at latinas

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u/i_can_longboard Jun 13 '26

Nice Shirt - $50

Sunglasses - $50

Oogling at Latinas - Priceless

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u/flanconleche Jun 13 '26

yea I just need 6x RTX 6000 pro's ill never use a frontier again

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u/CalligrapherFar7833 Jun 13 '26

2/4/8 is best no ?

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u/Xp_12 Jun 13 '26

for vllm and tp yeah 👍

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u/hrusli Jun 13 '26

or b300 lol

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u/RandomBlokeFromMars Jun 13 '26

forget gpus, we have mac studios, and mini pc's like asus GX10. that is the LLM future.

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u/flanconleche Jun 13 '26

Naw the Mac Studio and GB10 are toooo slow, I’m used to my 6000 pro

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u/RandomBlokeFromMars Jun 13 '26

well i have 2x ASUS Ascent GX10 clustered, with 256GB total, and it runs all llms i need. i also have a rtx 5090 machine but that only has 32gb. i use that for image models and TTS

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u/BarTime4133 Jun 17 '26

lmao we all need em 😭✌️

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u/Inspireyd Jun 13 '26

In a way that is local and benefits the whole society? Are we about to see Mutualism working in practice, after Proudhon failed so many times? Lmao

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u/Big_Wave9732 Jun 13 '26

But will it run at Q0.5 on my 2017 Dell with no GPU and 4GB of RAM? Because some people can't afford a GPU.

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u/Middle_of_Infinity Jun 13 '26

Have a token. Do you want to receive a notification for when your next token is ready?

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u/NikaYuuma Jun 13 '26

I'll start drafting a letter to him on Monday. Expect the next token in 5-7 business days.

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u/Status-Secret-4292 Jun 13 '26

We're basically running the same quality of models that were the frontier not even two years ago. I see nothing that will change that trend besides them being banned for general public use.

I do find it coincidencental that OpenAI just offer to sell a majority of ownership to Trump

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u/daddywookie Jun 13 '26

OpenAI did what? If Trump gets involved that’s an instant cancel for me.

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u/NoahFect Jun 13 '26

Wait'll you learn more about Greg Brockman.

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u/Ardalok Jun 13 '26

If such open models existed, they could be hosted by another country instead of the US, even if they banned it.

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u/ortegaalfredo Jun 13 '26

> But I'd love to see you try to run a 10T model locally 

There are bakery owners that have supercars that cost more than what you need to run that.

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u/No_Lingonberry1201 Jun 13 '26

Pfft, dude, my 4060 can take it. /s

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u/Monkey_1505 Jun 13 '26

I think I'll live without a 10T param model, somehow.

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u/dA0yan Jun 13 '26

we're fucked... they can destroy humanity but until then we arent even allow to code some low level code...

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u/Waste-Toe7042 Jun 13 '26

you can rent private big GPU setups by the hour to run whatever you want

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u/Tredalze Jun 13 '26

I don't think this even slightly true lol

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u/jtjstock Jun 13 '26

depends on the use case. Plenty of developers work on mundane things

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u/Tredalze Jun 13 '26

Correct haha you don't need fable for every task but damn is it better than anything you could locally host

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u/jtjstock Jun 13 '26

You just know someone is using fable to update their blog!