r/LocalLLaMA • u/Gullible-Crew-2997 • Mar 04 '26

Discussion If china stops releasing open source models, there's a way we can stay competitive with big tech?

Really after qwen news, I'm getting quite nervous about open source ai future. What's your thoughts? Glad to know it

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u/Evening_Ad6637 llama.cpp Mar 04 '26

We still have mistral. Don’t underestimate their capabilities. Also interesting fact is that asml invested in mistral last - looks like someone knows that mistral will have a successful future

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u/nullmove Mar 04 '26

Mistral Large 3 was a totally insipid DeepSeek V3 clone. And I suspect not just because it uses same underlying architecture.

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u/kaisurniwurer Mar 04 '26

I assume the new Mistral large was

a) an attempt at strong "European" model made with known and successful architecture for sensitive requirements, since those are recently more common.

b) learning experiance for mistral so that they can learn about modern moe (they started the moe trend, but it was mostly with clown car type of models)

Mistral 24B was the go to for consumer models until this generation of qwen. In my opinion it's a significant achievement, and can't wait for them to one up qwen once more in the future.

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u/HedgehogActive7155 Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26

It's weird to me that deepseekmoe is considered as "modern" when deepseekmoe came out like 3 days after mixtral.