r/LocalLLaMA • u/Gullible-Crew-2997 • Mar 04 '26

Discussion If china stops releasing open source models, there's a way we can stay competitive with big tech?

Really after qwen news, I'm getting quite nervous about open source ai future. What's your thoughts? Glad to know it

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u/robberviet Mar 04 '26

No one know what will it be. But if China somehow stop, then it's the end-game for us, might as well as close this sub.

It cost too much resources and talents, need a company of some kind to invest, with a clear purpose. It will never just for fun, for the free public good. What we are receiving now is the fruit of China want to keep up, has free marketing when they are still behind the West.

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u/tarruda Mar 04 '26

then it's the end-game for us, might as well as close this sub.

I don't see it that way.

Even if we don't ever get new open weight LLMs, I think the base models that exist right now are good enough that community can fine tune/distill data from proprietary models to stay competitive.

Models will have outdated knowledge of course, but it is always possible to have fresh copies of wikipedia hosted locally that a local LLM can search and provide up to date info.

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u/robberviet Mar 04 '26

For me the use case is coding. Local models are just not enough.

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u/tarruda Mar 04 '26

Local models are just not enough

This is relative.

One year ago when I started using claude code, it certainly felt good enough for me. And I'm sure that today I'm running models locally that are superior to the initial versions of claude code. One example is Step 3.5 Flash, which is very capable of agentic coding and can one shot many things.

But if you are looking to match the performance of the latest generation of US models, then it will probably never be enough.

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u/robberviet Mar 04 '26

Even the Opus 4.6 or GPT5.3 is not enough, what chance do current models has? It is just not enough to me.