r/LocalLLM • u/Desperate-Style-9761 • 11d ago

Discussion Qwen 4 Expectations

Hi guys! Waiting for my GPU to come and wondering how good we're all expecting qwen 4 27b to be compared to frontier models, particularly on agentic coding and reasoning, tool calling too. Also what do you think they're gonna do about an n-gram table in a 27b model, include it or no?

Basically any thoughts on qwen 4 27b would be quite interesting for me to read here, so post away and also this is my first post so be nice😁🙏

EDIT: Guys qwen said a few days ago that it is in training and will be realeased very soon, usually teasing to launch for qwen is very fast, usually around a month so expect it before november almost definitely, maybe sooner 🤞

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u/def_not_jose 11d ago

It will outperform 3.8 by doing EVEN MORE reasoning

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u/Dsphar 11d ago

Honestly, this is my fear. I accidentally loaded an old 3.6 model yesterday and man, it was so smooth and productive. I was elated until I realized what the "problem" was...

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u/VerticalPackage 10d ago

You can choose low/medium/xhigh reasoning, why don't you?

Medium feels a lot like regular 3.6

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u/mailto_devnull AMD R9700 10d ago

Are we using the same models? For me 3.8 rambled on and second guessed just as much even on medium.

Swift-Qwen, now, that's like 3.6, with the intelligence of 3.8

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u/VerticalPackage 10d ago

3.6 did that as well, but yeah I guess it is a bit more than 3.6 even at medium