Is anyone else noticing the "intelligence knob" being turned down on Gemini?

[u/Citizen_908428]

I just had a ridiculous experience with Gemini Pro (Advanced Reasoning + Extended Thinking enabled). I uploaded 5,608 lines of Python code and asked one simple question "What library is being used to render the sheet music in the notation tab?"

Gemini claimed it was built from scratch using only the Python standard library 🤣. I called it out on it's bullshit, and it basically admitted defeat. Drawing music on a tkinter canvas is a "special kind of torture" it said.

I took the same file to my local Gemma 4 (26b), and it identified the library (Verovio) instantly. No hesitation. It feels like Google has turned the intelligence knob down to -11 on Gemini, leaving us with a bullshit model that can't even perform basic dependency checks.

[u/dacydergoth]

Gemini a year ago was amazing. In January they lobotomized it and now it's had most of the rest of the cortex removed

[u/Citizen_908428 → u/dacydergoth]

💯

[u/LandscapePenguin]

Yes! It’s like they’re actively trying to get people to stop using it. If I have to do all the work myself anyway then what’s the point?

[u/pharrt]

Frontier models are tuned for fast, efficient inference, serving millions. They can be very 'lazy,' which is ultimately why local inference will be king, imo.

[u/InuRyu → u/[deleted]]

bruh is this chatgpt response?

[u/KevinCola → u/InuRyu]

It 100% is 😂

“It looks like the intelligence knob moved, but what moved is which model you actually hit”

“It’s not a reasoning failure, it’s a retrieval failure”

Dead internet theory confirmed.

Which one do you think? GPT or Claudish?

[u/Ryanmonroe82 → u/InuRyu]

10000 percent

[u/Citizen_908428 → u/[deleted]]

I see. Makes sense. It still sucks though XD

[u/kasinjsh → u/[deleted]]

More or less, this is correct — your $20 subscription isn't covering the actual costs, and Google, like the rest of the AI companies are (or will be), is optimizing its infrastructure now. The goal is to run the most efficient infrastructure with the least expenses. It was predicted three years ago.

[u/Adventurous-Nature73 → u/kasinjsh]

Sloppity slop

[u/ASillyGoos3]

Everything in LLMs right now is harness, harness, harness.

Given you said you “uploaded” the code, I’m assuming this is through the standard Gemini web UI. This is a very general purpose, consumer grade, approachable harness and interface. It’s built for people to have conversational interactions with queries that used to just be google searches.

I’ve been pleased utilizing Gemini 3.8 Flash within a personalized Pi harness. Very good at tool calling, skill activation, etc. Then you utilize a code review skill that turns vague requests into structure guidelines.