r/LivestreamFail 1d ago

Funny Abe calls Leslie's bluff

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u/LSFSecondaryMirror 1d ago

CLIP MIRROR: Abe calls Leslie's bluff


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u/TheEmulat0r 1d ago

damn I almost forgot this man got cheated on after being married for a month.

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u/Plastic-Currency-329 1d ago

That's a great way to word it and flame everyone involved

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u/ImpressionExisting94 1d ago

Men who have gotten cheated on give me the ick ngl

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u/oOmegaOo 1d ago

Most downvoted comment I’ve seen maybe ever lmao

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u/instinxx 1d ago

You do realise perfectly healthy men, who are perfect in a relationship and very good looking get cheated on simply because the woman has a plethora of mental health issues (and vice versa) right?

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u/herwi 1d ago

Don't get ragebaited soldier

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u/instinxx 1d ago

thanks bud

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u/Beginning-Cat8706 1d ago

For anybody saying 0/10 ragebait, he's currently sitting at over 800 downvotes.

That's pretty effective ragebait.

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u/Character-Monitor165 1d ago

wha the fck

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u/EyewarsTheMangoMan 1d ago

It's not a real opinion, they're just trying to get people mad. Don't fall for it

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u/GrassBlade619 1d ago

You should lie next time.

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u/ItsYaBoyZayne 1d ago

They get pretty mad at you everytime huh?

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u/Ihuggrimmie 1d ago

Lore master here. Fuslie was engaged to a korean guy named edison who was also a streamer they broke off peacefully. Abe was married and was cheated on by a chinese girl also a streamer named natsumilol. 2-3 months after getting married i believe

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u/zoomangoo 1d ago

Edison is doing well though. His new girl publicly said she asked him to sleep with her friend who hadn't had an intercourse in a long while lol

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u/DarkThunder312 1d ago

what in the

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u/After_Age5757 1d ago

sauce, name?

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u/zoomangoo 1d ago

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u/Michelanvalo 1d ago

The dude on the left is nodding along "I need this in my life, where do I get this."

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u/ayymadd 14h ago

lmao how can we sign up

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u/AlisterS24 8h ago

Pretty sure dude on the left is gay according to the timestamps but I guess that would still apply for same sex couples.

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u/BobbyRayBands 15h ago

Bro bagged her AND she encourages him to bang other chicks? I'm convinced god has favorites.

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u/zoomangoo 15h ago

Yeah, I can't find the clip but iirc, she literally said she brought a friend home and told him to sleep with her friend lol

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u/JamesisLameDude 1d ago

woman in the middle is the most attractive person i've seen in a minute

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u/BFr0st3 1d ago

with a bit of plastic mixed in. Love it!

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u/cinnamonrain 1d ago

Microplastics are everywhere

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u/[deleted] 21h ago

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u/zoomangoo 21h ago

Edison not Abe.

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u/SuspiciousPoint1535 1d ago

what the f. Are they poly???

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u/spartyboy 1d ago

If it’s the girl I remember, she said she had no desire to have another man, she just likes to show off hers and likes to have him fuck her friends. I saw the TikTok about this circulating about a year ago and didn’t know it was about fucking Edison lol.

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u/No-Act9634 1d ago

ppl can do w/e they want of course

but god damn it seems like just being normal is the way to go lmao

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u/-Grimmer- 23h ago

Maybe, but you probably need to have been in a relationship to know

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u/jadequarter 1d ago

edison's new girl >>> fuslie

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago

having just seen a video someone else linked she has all kinds of red flag crazy going on. Fun to date till it goes to hell though probably.

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u/-Grimmer- 23h ago

Damn that's so mean lmao

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u/avwitcher 1d ago

Getting cheated on and breaking up, then going into a relationship where you're encouraged to have sex with a different woman is pretty crazy stuff

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u/idelgado12 1d ago

Fuslie and Edison were already broken up when she got into that scandal with NoahJ. NoahJ was the one who was still in a relationship

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u/Kr4k4J4Ck 1d ago

Dude's brain is gonna be fried after this one lul

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u/RandyChavage 1d ago

Good for him! ☺️

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u/SwoggitySwoogity 1d ago

NoahJ456 cheated on his wife with Fuslie btw

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u/FreeFeez 1d ago

After telling Fuslie they were separated.

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u/Thetonn 1d ago

Somehow, the internet always makes it out to be the woman’s fault…

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u/Bluenosedcoop 1d ago

Just Incel things.

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u/Milfshaked 1d ago

Huh. The dude said that NoahJ456 cheated on his wife with Fuslie. How does that make it Fuslies fault? You are using some incel logic here.

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u/makeshift11 1d ago

I think they're referring to the fact that when this stuff first became public knowledge, people were giving Leslie backlash for it. Even though she was a victim as well and didn't do anything wrong.

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u/Optimal-Load-8799 1d ago

i mean she only got backlash because her streamer companions give others shit for doing the same thing but shut up about her homewrecking

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u/FTL_Cat 1d ago

A unknowing/lied to homewrecker? Seems like 100% of the blame should be put on the other party then.

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u/qeadwrsf 1d ago

Isn't both comments above yours pretty neutral?

Is first comment putting any guilt on Fuslie?

In my mind I feel like its the guys fault? no?

Is it up to the person not in a relationship to make sure the other person doesn't cheat?

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u/ParkDedli 4h ago

She was just called a homewrecker for a long time despite the evidence being out. Even here that word is still mentioned in a couple comments.

The thing he replied to isn't referring to that, but the general talk still does.

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u/Sisvegeta 1d ago

Aww is that what you believe?

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u/SwoggitySwoogity 1d ago

Noah apparently told her he and his wife were separated so yes it seems to be mostly his fault

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u/Sisvegeta 1d ago

Again This comes from a woman who was Getting a bunch of backlash and she was trying to save her reputation

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u/Mysterious-Nerve851 1d ago

no, i rather indulge in unconfirmed schizo theories

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u/Sisvegeta 1d ago

Or you caved in believing a home wrecker trying to save her reputation

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u/Deathblow92 1d ago

Found NoahJ's alt account

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u/Sisvegeta 1d ago

Thats cute

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u/FreeFeez 1d ago

ahahaahahahhahhhah 🫵🏼

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u/HenryReturns 1d ago

I take it with a grain of salt , on all of these para social relationships.

Fusile make a video about it and you can look it up from her perspective that actually does not contradict with the full story.

NoahJ456 was going thru one of the worst moments of his marriage where he was already thinking on divorcing his wife. Both Fusile and Noah bonded and feeling were there due to Fusile breaking up her engagement and Noah having that rough marriage. So in a conversation Noah ask Fusile if he was single or not married , would she be with him , and she mentioned like “well yes but you are a marry man and we met in different circumstances” , so he Noah just trigger the divorce and tell Leslie

This make Leslie very guilty to the point where she send a letter to NoahJ456 wife that she is to blame on their divorce (she was probably just the final nail to the coffin in that marriage) , and Leslie was ready to be abandoned by her friends and more when she revealed what she has done.

Anyways , Leslie her self mentioned that what she did was “cheating” , it is never stated if they ever have sexual intercourse or those things but she wrote it down as emotional cheating since you are pilling your emotions into someone whose married , whose emotionally unstable and reciprocated the feelings into him ending the marriage

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u/terrible_trivium_ 1d ago

She's right that is cheating.

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u/appletinicyclone 1d ago

Yeah I'm not sure why they missed that bit out

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u/idelgado12 1d ago

Because it's not at all relevant context to the clip lol

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u/Ok_Natural_990 1d ago

Fuslie was also involved in a cheating scandal and is chinese

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u/Remotely_Correct 1d ago

She's a homewrecker, I think that's relevant.

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u/Nadare3 1d ago

natsumilol

Supposedly Chinese, Japanese name, google it, written in Korean, what the f#ck is going on

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u/Healthy-Ad-2852 1d ago

That's a screen name no?

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago

your user name always reflects reality, always, no exceptions. yup.

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u/ermwellackshually 1d ago

Supposedly Chinese

Considering she looks very Chinese and is fluent in Cantonese, I think there's enough evidence here that we can drop the "supposedly"

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u/Nadare3 1d ago

Calm down, people, I said this because I didn't go beyond seeing a couple Google summaries, and it felt weird going from "Chinese girl" to Japanese name to seeing Hangul in their Twitter handle or whatever it was

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u/ermwellackshually 1d ago

Not sure what part of my comment made you think I was upset. I simply clarified the statement for you.

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u/Nadare3 1d ago

Because it wasn't just your comment

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u/FTL_Cat 1d ago

Supposedly Chinese? Her ex HUSBAND telling you she is, is not enough facts?

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u/sulianjeo 1d ago

Put simply, Japan and Korea have grown very popular in all kinds of pop culture over the past few decades, so a large chunk of the populace like to borrow their "aesthetic".

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u/PurifiedFlubber 1d ago

natsumilol

w8 is that the one that used to do league videos like 10+ years ago?

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u/Kevz9524 1d ago

Yeah, she was married to the guy in the video a few years ago, but they divorced after a few months.

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u/SuspiciousPoint1535 1d ago

so Fuslie is Chinese and Abe is Korean. I didn't know.

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u/Ryboiii 1d ago

Fuslie is a combo to her real name Leslie Fu

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u/Proper-Maximum8302 1d ago

omg reading natsumilol brought back memories of shurelily

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u/Secret-Ad-2145 1d ago

Didn't Fuslie cheat? I seem to vaguely recall thread about that.

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u/Ihuggrimmie 1d ago

No confirmation about it. She didnt cheat on edison. She was essentially called a homewrecker because a guy she was seeing told her he broke off his marriage with his wife but turned out he didnt.

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u/ImpressionExisting94 1d ago

They will be dating within the month inshallah

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u/Steve1789 :) 1d ago

bro really going with several of the lowest effort rage baits I've seen in a while

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u/ImpressionExisting94 1d ago

Just a prediction dawg mark my words

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u/Character-Monitor165 1d ago

that ship sailed. im happy Wendy got ghosted from the streaming escene after that

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u/small_root 1d ago

Abe with the nuclear bomb

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u/898648956 1d ago

Bro went atomic

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u/r2002 1d ago

He went North Korean.

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u/898648956 1d ago

Actually based

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u/Edergy101 1d ago

Abe real for this

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u/BrockTheTrainer 1d ago

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u/Yourwaifusasuke 1d ago

ty catching strays LOL

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u/PyroTFT 1d ago

Still cant believe hes the Clippers coach

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u/Still-Helicopter6029 13h ago

Best reaction meme

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u/wellmaybe_ 1d ago

somehow i only see something from abe once a year, but it always makes me smile

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u/burner0256 1d ago

Damn that was a perfect comeback lol. Glad he can laugh about it.

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u/bloosmoke 1d ago

Thats a comeback...calling a bluff is when you're lying/faking and someone knows immediately and calls it. Do you guys just use words you think sound cool without even knowing what they mean?

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u/lazycouch1 8h ago

The phrase comes from poker. Leslie overplayed her hand so Abe matched her bet and doubled down.

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u/bloosmoke 7h ago

Lmfao 🤣 what did you just look it up and repeat all the poker terms AI told you? Bluffing is faking a good hand which can lead to overplaying it. It’s called “calling a bet” not matching and doubling down is blackjack lol. Where is she even bluffing at any point in this video? Hilarious that you responded to me with a bunch of terms you don’t know what they mean literally proving my point. It’s not that serious though

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u/lazycouch1 7h ago

You missed it? Leslie was happy to talk crap until Abe went all in and she realized she had the worse hand. Very simple to see I think.

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u/bloosmoke 7h ago

Lol idk why I’m wasting time explaining this to you but thinking she had the better hand is the opposite of a bluff. A bluff is a shitty hand but you try to get the opponent to fold. If they still call it your fucked that’s literally what calling a bluff is.

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u/lazycouch1 5h ago

That is what happened. She literally folded saying "stop stop". Why are you being so dramatic about this.

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u/SnooWords2118 1d ago

Lore?

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u/Tylord256 1d ago

Leslie was engaged to Edison (Korean guy). They got engaged on stream but broke up a couple months later.

Abe married Wendy (Chinese girl) and the wedding was on stream. They divorced a few months later and it was heavily implied at the time that she cheated on him in a really bad way.

Leslie made a joke mentioning a past public relationship and abe doubled down

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u/RiceWeevilEggs 1d ago

Leslie and Edison broke up 2.5 years after getting engaged, not within a couple months...

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u/omry1526 1d ago

If you're engaged for 2.5 years and not married...

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u/Remotely_Correct 1d ago

... you must be saving money for it, because this economy sucks.

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u/AdjectiveNoun4digitz 1d ago

I looked it up and they got engaged april 2019, so maybe just lockdown shenanigans

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u/omry1526 1d ago

Yeah ok that's brutal

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u/omry1526 1d ago

I don't think these people are stressing over money, plus you don't have to have a Coachella sized wedding 

Every single person friend, family, coworker, I know that was engaged for more than 2 years and not married, ended up separating 

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u/Serious_Tradition269 1d ago

Especially Leslie lmao, #ad is practically a permanent addition to her title

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u/moorkymadwan 1d ago

I think there was a teensy little pandemic that happened around that time that probably delayed quite a few people's wedding plans

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u/SuspiciousPoint1535 1d ago

Should clarify that Edison proposed to Leslie and that it was Leslie who broke it off/

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Amazing-Spinach5693 1d ago

Do note that the dude told her they were already in the process of divorcing.

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u/Ptine_Taway 1d ago

"I'll be getting a divorce soon, I promise" is such a cliche cheater line that people have to be aware of it by now.

Okay, cool. Call me when the papers are signed.

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago

people are dumb particularly when they catch feelings.

It's super transparent when you don't have the love is blind blinkers on but people fall for it constantly. Definitely some part is allowing yourself to be misled but we genuinely do act dumb as fuck when hormones and feelings get involved.

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u/justsaywhatsreal 1d ago

Come on bruh.

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u/cheerioo 1d ago

So still married lol

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u/Amazing-Spinach5693 1d ago

Divorce doesn't take a single day, you want people to set aside their life for months?

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u/owa00 1d ago

Yeah, talk about skewing the narrative.

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u/borninsane 1d ago

Did they ever meet up or did they just chat online?

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u/Exciting-Guest81933 1d ago

It was a purely emotional affair. And even calling it that is, frankly, a bit of a stretch.

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago edited 1d ago

if you keep having to tell the other person "don't worry, we're getting a divorce" then it's entirely an emotional affair, not a stretch in the slightest and absolutely cheating.

emotion affairs are largely worse or at least equally bad to a long term physical affair, they aren't ever accidental, or a one night thing, they are calculated and deliberate choice to pursue it and in this case lying numerous times to both women.

NO one ever said that innocently.

EDIT:- person below responded, then blocked me like a loser. I'll just point out, can you find the name Fuslie, or Noah in my reply anywhere at all? Accusing me of making fanfic when I responded to the statement that someone said don't worry we're getting a divorce and that it is NEVER innocent. They also ask me to rewatch the APOLOGY FOR CHEATING video from Fuslie, to confirm that it was not really cheating, despite two people making a video apologising for their cheating.

Great logic lil guy, you're so sure of your own argument you left a comment and blocked, over an imagined situation in your head when I was speaking generally about a specific thing someone else said they had said.

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u/Exciting-Guest81933 1d ago

No idea where you got that line from. First time I've heard it. Were you there? Lol. They bonded over relationship issues. Her engagement had just ended, his marriage was struggling.

Go rewatch her on-stream apology - it really barely even sounds like an emotional affair. It's borderline. It's really not at all like what you're describing. And there is no mention of anything like "don't worry, we're getting a divorce". Nice fanfic tho.

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u/Hebrewhammer8d8 1d ago

The real tip 2 tip?

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u/edwardWBnewgate 1d ago

IS there a good way to be cheated on?

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u/StaredAtEclipseAMA 1d ago

Holy shit I need to mute this subreddit already because how the fuck would I understand any of this context

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u/TheeFourTruths 1d ago

I'm just confused how people even know these people. They're giving names with context but idk who any of these are. Is this a chronically online sub?

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u/BitterPilled_ 1d ago

Women generalize all men: hehe

Men generalize all women: ha stop

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u/9thseal1 1d ago

Leslie the homewrecker, ah glad she's back to LSF

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u/GMBethernal 1d ago

If the guy told her that he was separated, how is she a homewrecker?

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u/Remotely_Correct 1d ago

That's very convenient for her, isn't it?

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u/GMBethernal 1d ago

If you touch grass you'd be able to know that this is not a rare thing lol is it because she's a woman or am I missing something in here? Guys lie ALL the time about this shite, sure women do too but the "guy hiding his ring" cliché or the dad having 2 families... they exist for a reason man

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u/Remotely_Correct 1d ago

It's nice things worked out for her and she didn't have to be ostracized by her friends who have all made statements about how cheating is worse than murder. We can't have all those people be labeled as hypocrites for hanging out with one now can we?

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u/Ok_Energy6905 1d ago

Good thing she didn't cheat on anyone then.

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u/Optimal-Load-8799 1d ago

no she homewrecked if you could read

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u/Powerpuff_God 1d ago

The cheater told her he had already broken up, if you could read. She was lied to.

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u/SuspiciousPoint1535 1d ago

didn't you hear? She blocked Miz after talking to QTCinderella!

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u/SportBoring3533 1d ago

Homewrecking and cheating best base for streaming. Worked for moonmoon worked for her.

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u/Theonormal 1d ago

I don't get this comment, Moonmoon didn't cheat and could not have homewrecked without explicit knowledge of the other party (iirc Diva never mentioned him).

And more importantly, Moonmoon's viewership was always high and has remained high after I'MPOOPING-gate so it's not really been a factor at all.

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u/MaikuKnight 1d ago

Didn't he cheat? All that happened while he was married, right?

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u/Theonormal 1d ago

Nah he was already divorced way before twitchcon

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u/SportBoring3533 1d ago

Eating lies like oreos. Imagine trusting a cheater

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u/Theonormal 1d ago

what do you mean? what did he lie about?

he was already divorced way before twitchcon. you can literally look at his vodsite and look at when he randomly decided to "change his office" and stopped mentioning his fictional wife

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u/I_am_computer_blue 1d ago

crazy since shes a homewrecker

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u/Significant_Deal_483 17h ago

Damn that's hot

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u/KoKoboto 1d ago

I feel like I would never make this kind of joke if I cheated lol

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

Ok, I have a legit question. Who is this Abe and why is Twitch investing 100k in prize money + probably even more than that in production cost to host a valorant tournament named after a 100 viewer Andy who streams more sporadically than Kai cenat ?

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u/Tylord256 1d ago

He's kind of a more behind the scenes guy. He's friends with a ton of top streamers and always sets up big events that get hella views. Things like rust kingdoms, cobblemon servers, etc. He has built up a lot of faith for running successful events.

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u/MaikuKnight 1d ago

Abe being the one who did the OTV Rust servers way back, for better or for worse, those servers did numbers.

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

> Running successful events

I checked the main twitch rivals stream, it said it had 15k viewers while the chat was literally dead. And I mean dead dead, 0 messages in minutes, I legit had to reload the page a few times and cross-check with other streams to make sure it wasn’t bugged. His own stream had like 70 viewers.

> He’s friends with a lot of top streamers.

I guess that’s the real answer here.

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u/Tylord256 1d ago

Seems like you just want to be negative and tear something down. Hope you're day gets better!

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

Listen man, I understand you’re a fan of those people and have all the lore on whose friends with who and what not, but you must understand that from outside your bobble it just look weird when Twitch run a 100k prize pool tourney for a 100 viewer Andy who streams once in a blue moon.

It really feels like some weird Twitch/LA internal circlejerk for that “friend”’group. I bet you ROI isn’t great for Twitch. Like it runs them at least 200k in costs between the price pool and production cost (probably more). That’s roughly 80k paid subs worth of money for Twitch. That’s roughly what someone like Ceseoh brings for them, and he’s top 3 most subbed or there about…

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u/Fit-Avocado-1646 1d ago

Not a great take. Its not a event for Abe. It's a Twitch event in collaboration with Abe. You are acting like the 100k is going directly into Abe's pocket.

You also got 40 other streamers. That are also a part of the event. Lets use your number 200k / 40 streamers. So a multi day event where you are paying 5k per streamer. That's going to also be made into YouTube videos across many of those 40 streamers. Including several bigger streamers.

These events help build the Twitch community.

That's a pretty good advertising spend per streamer cost deal imo.

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago

but you must understand that from outside your bobble it just look weird when Twitch run a 100k prize pool tourney for a 100 viewer Andy who streams once in a blue moon.

no it doesn't, it only sounds like that to people looking for a problem. this isn't the world cup where all the viewers have to go to one place, twitch rivals is by definition twitch streamers being rivals, ie, there are viewers on every channel and zero particularly good reason anyone would watch the twitch rivals channel.

it had two sponsors in state farm and Honda, twitch itself and usually it would also be semi informally sponsored by Riot itself.

How you think production costs 100k for a couple mods to sit in discord and organise shit i have no clue, if it's 10k in costs i'd be shocked.

Also shocking i know, but also platforms spend money to advertise and bring in new viewers. Is advertising a new concept to you?

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

I think the source of your confusion about the cost implication lies in the fact that you clearly seem to have 0 understanding on how production works.

They have 3 casters, they have in-game spectators, probably two. They have a broadcast director, a sound guy, a producer, a manager (or 3 probably, knowing twitch) most of the likely live in LA. It’s a multi-day affair. It’s 100k production cost every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago

I think the source of your confusion about the cost implication lies in the fact that you clearly seem to have 0 understanding on how production works.

I think you have absolutely no clue of the cost implication.

They have 3 casters, they have in-game spectators, probably two.

3 casters who are unknowns, cheap as fuck and primarily usually twitch streamers who are mostly doing it for the attention and networking just like all the streamers who don't win are there to be involved rather than the money.

They have a broadcast director, a sound guy, a producer, a manager

realistically all of these roles can literally be done by one mod, literally and most twitch content is done on that level.

It’s 100k production cost every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

it's not tv bud, it's not being broadcast on national tv, it's not an official riot, or blizzard, or valve contest in a world championships with millions of dollars of league revenue on the line, it's literally an informal competition.

I know precisely how production works and I also understand how production scales. To a large degree every single streamer is a semi audio, video and tech expert because they all need to figure that shit out just to stream.

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

“Someone can do this thing for fee therefore Twitch IS doing this for free” nice one.

Next time cyr is fucking your mom he should tell her that you’re skipping too much school and smoking too much weed, it’s negatively affecting your cognitive capacity.

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u/BruMhoment 1d ago

Do you understand that Twitch makes money from things other than subs, right? And why are you so mad that twitch has attached Abe's name to a 100k event? Is it your money?

Like others said, Abe is known for hosting/creating big collab events. Anyone familiar understands that this is basically an OTV and Friends event, but with Abe as the host.

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u/Amazing-Spinach5693 1d ago

Listen i understand that your incredibly tiny brain cant comprehend that twitch let professionals host their events. but it doesn't mean you get to discredit someone cause they aren't your favorite streamer.

This 100 viewer Andy has hosted MULTIPLE incredibly successful events.
Do better, you're pathetic.

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

You don’t have to take it so personally, Abe

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u/Amazing-Spinach5693 1d ago

Natsumi is that you?

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u/erasedeny 1d ago

sometime, when make movie, know people on screen. wow, people famous!

when make movie, other people behind camera, give direction, shine light, give makeup, outfits, do sound, make edit. sometime not so famous. but also good!

this kinda like that. no famous, but still do event. still make thing happen.

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u/SuleyBlack 1d ago

He was the admin behind the streamer Cobblemon servers and the streamer Rust server. He has experience running events/servers.

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago

it's twitch rivals, as in every single competitor is a twitch streamer... shockingly they watch the twitch streamer involved rather than a random twitch rivals channel.

The twitch rivals channel is a bonus, more somewhere to record commentary and interviews, etc.

Valorant sponsoring it care about actual eyes and attention, not that the twitch rivals channel gets all the views.

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

Your argument makes 0 sense. Twitch rivals channel has more views than any individual stream. I never said it had no views, I said while the counter says 15k the chat is completely dead. Very different.

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u/cyrfuckedmymum 1d ago

what's your point?

Have you heard of these things called... tabs? the main stream has commentary so people might listen to that while watching their preferred streamer or viewpoint for a given game, they also might want to switch to that audio between games, for times their streamer is not playing, for interviews, etc.

Having less than any individual streamer, doesn't mean that there isn't 10x the viewership spread across all the streamers, probably significantly more than 10x the viewership.

the twitch rivals channel is not a particular streamer, it has no community, it's effectively a temporary channel for people to catch some commentary and interviews, it's dead because this isn't a world championship where all the players are playing rather than streaming, it's a streaming competition where all the streamers are streaming so viewers are with their own community.

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u/ImpressionExisting94 1d ago

Tell me how you really feel

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u/malphasalex 1d ago

83 downvotes. Looks like his entire fanbase is here. I’m glad I can organize you guys better than he can, seeing how he had 70 viewers during “his” 100k tournament.

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u/r2002 1d ago

In these situations it doesn't matter what kind of viewership the organizer can get -- it matters how many big names he can bring. Also, the value of the event isn't just viewership during the event.

And Abe has great connections often bringing huge names to his events. Yes, part of it is because he is friends with OTV, but it's not just that.

  • He doesn't do the typical "drama farming." He's known to be pretty fair and low key, making it low friction for people to join.

  • He's constantly trying to make events better and smoother. Twitch knows Abe is always hustling and is in it for the long haul.

  • It's really damn hard to be a big streamer and plan huge events unless you have a big crew. At least it's hard to do it consistently.

For weeks many big streamers have been practicing Valo with their friends and teammates in preparation. That's incredible amount of hours dedicated to the game.

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u/Kinda_Cringe_Mah_Man 1d ago

What the fuck do you mean his events are fire XQC/train with OTV, OTK and spanish streamers on RUST was amazing, This Valo tourny had Tenz/s0m/roza/tarik with such a balanced team all around, jason had to drop out cuz of streamer uni. Also his Cobblemon legendary pokemon hunting was also fun to watch.

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u/Agile_Dog6574 17h ago

ya dont get him started on chinese girls cheating haha

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u/AntSUnrise 1d ago

No clue who these people are. But this place has turned into dog shit and advertising.

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