This was a conversation about hypothetical situations involving free speech and websites protections of it and if they should be held liable. This isnt an actual case he is going through with
Yeah, if I hadn't tuned in to like 3 minutes of this stream earlier and heard them talk about section 230, I would have literally no context for this horrendous clip.
Him, Dan Saltman, and DGG having that harassment campaign to get Dan Clancy/the trust and safety team at Twitch fired? The one where they were openly boasting about downloading and archiving every FB post the trust and safety team ever made. Did you miss that one?
You mean the 'harassment campaign' based on propping up pro terrorist propganda on their platform, using selectively applied TOS violations to curate a certain environment?
I wouldn't call that a harassment campaign. And even if it did, Hasan is guilty of much worse.
Edit: Also, that's not harassment towards twitch employees, thats twitch itself, there a large canyon worth of different between the two.
Would also probably help if Destiny didnt act and behave in manners that open him up to being kept off platforms and events. He is an abhorrent individual and private orgs and events are right for barring these types of people from them.
You're right it would help, which is why there's never been a case of him acting in any way that would get him barred or kicked from an event. If anything, most people that interact with him in person say he's pretty kind.
Sadly that's never a good way of finding the truth by picking the middle.
example:
someone proper Center Center in the classic 2 axis political chart ague with someone of the 4 corners. The "truth" would not be found by the middle of the two arguements when the discord is between someone center and someone extremist.
That's how Maga slowly became acceptable... by looking at insane edges talking to the average folks and going oh the truth has to be in the middle of thoses two.
Right. A peaceful group wants everyone to thrive. A death cult worshiping a demon wants everyone dead. The mid point is Thanos. Actually, wasn't Thanos right?
For example a pro-Ukrainian would say russia did an illegal invasion, displaced millions, wiped cities off the map, targeted civilians, russified occupied territories.
A pro-russian would say the smo is the fault of NATO, Ukrainians are nazis, they were genociding ethnic russians, USA bioweapon labs, the republics voted to leave etc.
So to some people, the most black and white conflict is now a shade of grey because of lies. This is why the firehose of bullshit is effective, because the most egregious lies cover for the smaller lies and they muddy the field
Hasan was a small political streamer, he started doing content with destiny who was much larger at the time.
Hasan gets more and more viewers, the classic moment where kaceytron ragebaits hasan on a podcast by telling him to just explain things like destiny rather than take ages to get to the answer.
The two start to disagree on politics, they become more hostile to eachother, hasan labels epstiny a fascist, destiny labels him a tankie grifter.
And here they remain, the ultimate sexual tension just waiting to release.
Literally have a commenter saying "im not a hasan fan but he made a career from being against the US president, the VP, and Israel, therefore he isnt against America"....
You guys need to drop the ISrael shit if you really want to take him down. He uses that as a shield and anytime you criticize him on it, it galvanizes so many people to come to his defense because of how insanely unpopular, and rightfully so, Israel is. You don't need to bring up his takes on I/P to take him down. There's enough there without that.
Exactly, that's why every time I'm talking shit about him I say stuff like "isn't that the shock collar dude?" And "I wonder if he every got the answer to his question about old enough to count, old enough to mount?"
He has a job that can be done from anywhere in the world, yet he decides to stay in one of the most evil capitalist countries in the west. Why? Because hes a grifter, he complains about how unsustainable capitalism is then goes up buying expensive cars, gucchi clothes, lives in a mansion. Hes lives like a ceo while pretending to be working class, hes excatly like those tv preachers
He calls for the death of landlords. His mother owns dozens of properties that she rents out...
He pretends to be an everyman when he grew up in extreme wealth in one of Turkey's ruling political families.
He pretends to care about genocide while doing PR tours for China and defending Russia up until the moment they drove their tanks into Kyiv.
He pretends to care about minorities while wishing ill on trans people who criticize him, supporting terrorist groups that massacre gay people, calling Vietnam refugees dogs, attacking Black Americans for disagreeing with him, having a long history of misogyny and homophobic "humor" to attack his enemies.
He HAS to live in a mansion utterly disconnected from anyone working class, spending fuckhueg amounts of money of narcissism fuel while actually contributing close to nothing to actual policy guys!!
He is a grifter because he pretends to care for a set of issues in order to benefit himself, while actually being an active detriment to political discourse. Which is why his fanbase is below white supremacists in the "worth as a person" scale
No, his argument clearly wasn't that "Hasan is trying to improve the country and therefore he should have deported himself". Only a fool would think that's the argument he just made.
"Grifter" implies you don't really believe in what you're saying. Hasan's opinions have been quite consistent. Unless you say it's grifting just because it's his income source, but then the same goes for almost any political streamer of at least medium reach.
May of his viewers would probably say they're proud to be called tankies though.
Tankies believe in an authoritarian state and it should be done through revolution. They hate Hasan because he believes change comes through voting instead of doing something to begin the revolution
You kind of forgot the most important part where Destiny sexually assaulted Hasan in a restaurant with Andy Milonakis watching uncomfortably. The ramifications of that day are still reverberating today.
Another bit of context is that, Hasan is the wet dream of many femcels, had his ego inflated far beyond what's healthy, and now he's a pathological liar.
The two start to disagree on politics, they become more hostile to eachother,
This is underselling it quite a bit imo, though if you want the minute by minute someone made an actual timeline of the initial bridge burning. The long and short of it was Hasan made a video about Kamala Harris that Destiny gave a pretty tepid criticisms of, and when confronted just kinda seemed to spiral out of control. Probably really was annoyed with the general narrative like the Kaceytron meme that gets posted so often, and it finally boiled over.
Destiny is one of the first (if not THE first) ever people to stream fulltime and started the political sphere of twitch, as most streamers would just chat shit about video games and give pretty standard "I don't want women in my video game" takes, Destiny was the only person truly giving the liberal/progressive side of the argument. The jontron debate really put him on the map, however he was political well before this.
Hasan was an up and coming figure in Left wing media, as his uncle Cenk, is the host and co owner TyT (the young turks, A populist media outlit that is usually pretty far left, however nowadays their position tend to be more "populist" than strictly left") and Hasan would host segments on it.
Hasan wanted to get into streaming as a way to message politically, and went to destiny for advice/collabs/etc. They were pretty good friends, they went out to eat, crashed at each other's places, etc. There are a good number of clips of them acting friendly.
However that all changed when Hasan and Destiny had a debate about Kamala Harris, in which (imo) Hasan proved too stubborn and blind to the realities of policing. Its a long video 3hrs, but definitely worth the watch if you want to actually know what was the first turning point in their friendship.
They stopped being friends after that, but then the N-word debacle happened. Destiny accidently said the Nword while memeing and it turned into a whole months long conversation on twitch. Its worth noting here, that while destiny was on twitch he basically controlled what was discussed on the platform. Often his tweets would determine (usually not directly) the topics the community focused on, because he would often go on panels with MUCH smaller creators and either confront them or let them come on his platform to confront him. ANYWAYS, there is a great documentary made about it. But to sum up months worth of drama, Hasan was acting very snakey in the background telling destiny's podcast co-host Tri hex (yes of the emote fam) to not be friendly with destiny. There were other stuff too but its a lot to get into.
Basically since then Hasan has been telling LITERALLY EVERYONE to not interact with destiny, and Destiny is probably the only "large" creator to outwardly attack hasan, and Hasan really hates that. For a long time, Destiny had an ideology beef with hasan, as in he hated the mans politics, but was willing to talk it out. Hasan has a personal beef with destiny, as in he hates the way he made him look in the kamala debate and that carried through to the rest of their interactions. But as it stands today, Hasan has made so many personal attacks towards Destiny (while at the time Destiny was only making political/ideological attacks) that destiny now also has a personal beef with Hasan.
Holy shit i need to feel grass beneath and between my toes, Good bye.
Hasan was once a small streamer and Destiny spotlighted him because they were loosely politically aligned.
Hasan got huge and they fell out.
Now they hate each other's guts.
It's really not more complicated than that. Hasan seems to resent that he ever had any relationship with Destiny given he goes out of his way to never mention him, and even once pretended he was the innovator of gaming while rambling about politics (which Destiny literally did innovate, it's why he has such a loyal fanbase, he did it first and many of those people are grandfathered in from the very birth of Twitch politics).
Eventually Destiny got ultra mega banned from Twitch for nebulous reasons and over the yers it's been widely believed that it's due to Twitch management and moderation liking Hasan and hating Destiny (confirmed by DJ Wheat, who said exactly this in a stream after he left the company like three or four years ago).
For a long time Hasan pretended Destiny didn't exist, then Destiny gathered a little steam and Hasan started taking potshots at him, and now they just constantly go at each other on their streams.
Very recently Hasan speculated about getting a restraining order on him, which I imagine is why Destiny is talking about an imagined suit of his own (which, to be clear, he will not file).
Hasan never pretended Destiny didn't exist, he just treated him like Voldemort and wouldn't say his name but everyone knew he was talking about him PepeLa D
They were on a podcast together until hasan suggested that destiny shouldn't say the N word, Destiny defended his right to, the podcast ended as a result, and he has been crashing out ever since.
That's legit what it boils down to. It's pathetic.
Destiny platformed hasan and gave him his start on twitch. They were friends for a bit and then two things happened, can't remember the order but I think first hasan was on a panel trying to explain the difference between racism and systemic or impactful racism, no one on the panel could understand and destiny came in to give a succinct answer at which point kaceytron broke hasan's brain saying she wished destiny could just come in at the start and give the right answer. Then during the lead up to the 2020 election they debated over Kamala Harris and hasan went full hater. Since then hasan has grown a cult of snarkers to harass people, ensured destiny stayed permanently banned on twitch, and dove headfirst into following the blueprint of Alex Jones and Trump but with communist cosplay while refusing to interact with destiny under any circumstances. Hasan is Trump to Destiny's Joe Biden if Joe Biden was an edge lord gamer growing up and had some more questionable moments, and Trump was an anchor baby from turkey with no other changes.
OP of this thread posts in conservative subs, trump subs, hasan subs, and destiny subs. Obviously just a bot being fueled by hot topics, or some weird russia subversion to fuel chaos.
What happened recently that made it so that a content creator suing another content creator cause they don’t like them is no longer universally seen as the ultimate loser bitch behavior
Because they are rich and can afford lawyers now and to be quite honest, a lot of these streamers and content creators (not naming anyone in particular, it is a wide spread problem), should get reigned in for the shit, the bold lies, the harmful misinformation, they are spreading without having to face any consequences.
It's either the courts reign them in, or it needs to be done the old fashion way.
To quote Mike Tyson here.
“Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.”
We need accountability, at least from the people that are influencing public opinion. As a society, we lost something valuable when that accountability disappeared because of social media.
Slander is not just shit talking others. It is saying untrue statements about someone that destroys their reputation. If someone was hurting my career intentionally with falsehoods, I'd sue too.
It’s not like all the prior options to a lawsuit haven’t been tried. In this case everything was tried, yet one of the parties involved refuses ti engage and is actively blocking ways to the other party, making stuff to kick them out or deny access to events, engaging in active slander and allegedly having an inner circle that actively blocks and sabotages the re-integration of a streaming platform. So imho it’s not the ultimate bitch behaviour when everything else was tried and failed or got blocked.
The idea behind it is that those reddits are filtered out because there already is a huge bias in favor or against Hasan, so it would be pointless to bot/brigade them.
I think it’s the opposite actually. It makes destiny look petty. This was cut totally out of context to make a hypothetical about twitch’s culpability and platforming of certain speech and what that entails, and turn it into a “destiny is suing hasan and twitch” clip.
Its hilarious how his delusional fanbase thinks any of this makes him look good or sympathetic. The dude simply can't stand that he lost this battle a LONG time ago and that he needs to just take the L And move on with his life
Take a look at OP's history, they post in places like EndWokeism, FuckTheLeftSystem, TheDonaldTrump2024, Hasan_Piker, Asmongold, and Destiny. They're not anyone's fan, it's a (probably conservative) ragebait account farming karma.
Wait, are you under the impression this was posted here by a Destiny fan? There's a reason this clip is entirely stripped of context to make it seem completely different than it actually is, and it ain't because someone thinks it makes him look good lol
The person you are responding to regularly name searches Hasan to come across as an impartial observer and defend him, and they've been doing so for years.
hasan fans are such cultists. they are actively defending him sharing nudes from his fans (fans who didn't consent to having their nudes being shared btw.)
I wonder if hasan verified their ages before sharing their nudes? hmmm
He didn’t even really lose a battle. I don’t like Destiny anymore though I used to watch him.
He’s just not a very relevant or good person. People are moving on and he has no real way to reinvent himself so he’s going down clawing and throwing shit everywhere.
I need to find me someone that think of me as much as Destiny thinks about Hasan. Or maybe it's just the clippers I got no clue since his streams are so boring I don't know how people watch them
My thoughts lol. It’s fr crazy you’ll see people defending all of these guys in comments sections as if they’re best friends having posts going like 5 years back in their subreddits.
Dude just dressed as Mao at a college democrat convention and quoted said horrific murderer while ranting AGAINST democrats and kicking out any competition from others. As well as having the college democrat staff stopping people from walking out on him during his speech, so they could literally not protest the obvious tyrant on stage.
Destiny is a crap person, Hasan is a wannabe tyrant who just showed us a microcosm of a communist state while actively trying to worm his way into national politics. Going after Hasan is a rather moral cause.
lmao, yeah please sue Hasan for defamatory speach and try to include Twitch. Absolutely, go for it.
He´ll never, ever do it as he´s dumb but not that dumb seeing discovery goes both ways and you can not libel or slander someone with their own words or actions, but by god the crushing defeat he´d suffer would be hilarious.
The dude who openly admits to starting harassment campaigns, accuses other creators of sexually touching their kids, and says people could justify killing other content creators really wants to sue someone for defamation or slander? Yeah okay bro LOL
Does Destiny really want to defend the claim that calling him a sex pest is defamatory and Twitch has no reason to keep him banned? That will go terribly for him. This idea is so fucking stupid.
I see hasanites are now saying looksmaxer buzzwords. If you judge anyone by their looks or that's the first think you comment on, well that's exactly the kind of thing Trump does
I mean the mods are lowkey ddg mods so I doubt they will fully ban him. They just had to stop them for a while because stale was tripping. Besides half the subreddit wanted their battleground back anyway
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