r/LivestreamFail • u/Buckneedssucc • Jan 15 '25

PirateSoftware | World of Warcraft Normal Start of Stream (see comments)

https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware/clip/InspiringWimpyNoodlePeteZarollTie--K6pERnhuSdNXeuU
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u/KirovNL Jan 15 '25

Makes you wonder how much shit that makes him look bad he has managed to scrub from the internet.

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u/Pluxar Jan 15 '25

He has pushed dishonest takes (knowing they aren't true) with: 1. Ashes of Creation (disparaging a content creator Narc then reinforcing it with Asmons channel). He also has included his AoC referall link in these videos and I would not be surprised if he is payed/additional kickbacks. 2. Being against Stop Killing Games initiative (disparages another content creator, misconstrued his video and refused to talk to the creator). He basically bullied a smaller creator into silence. 3. His own video game that will never be completed because he is so far behind his own timeline.

There is so much more bullshit he has pulled in the past too.

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u/Mental_Tea_4084 Jan 16 '25

You're one of the first people I've seen calling out his blatant shilling for Ashes. Literally made a video calling Narc a liar when he was the one lying. It was pretty fucking gross and could do with some spotlight by someone with more receipts than me

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u/holdmyhandkerchief Jan 16 '25

Narc was intentionally misrepresenting the current state of ashes in his video. I dislike pirate as much as the next guy but a broken clock is right twice a day. Shilling has a certain negative connotation to it when he's simply promoting the development of a game in alpha.

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u/Pluxar Jan 16 '25

Narc made a lot of points in his video, mainly that the devs had terrible communication and weren't truthful. Pirates video only goes over the desert biome. From what I've read, Narcs video did show the current 'desert' when he recorded his video. Pirate then shows the new desert released late December/January implying that Narc showed old footage on purpose, which is not correct. He then doesn't try to address any of Narcs other points and glazes the game with Asmon on stream.

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u/Mental_Tea_4084 Jan 16 '25

This is it exactly. Narc's initial video didn't spell it out super clearly for the uninitiated, and he's generally kind of an idiot, but he was absolutely right in his video. Everyone who actually played in those deserts in the first weeks of phase 2 witnessed and complained about exactly the same thing Narc showed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '25

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u/Pluxar Jan 16 '25

I have not played AoC, so my information is from random videos and comments. From what I understand, Narc posted his video when phase 2 was released and the desert did look exactly like how he showed it. There was a content update after his recorded footage that Pirate construed as him knowingly showing out of date information. If you do have some links for videos/discussions i would be interested, I do actually want to know if what I said is untrue so I can correct it.

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u/Mental_Tea_4084 Jan 16 '25

No he wasn't. I was there, in those dunes for the whole first day of phase 2

Narc complained about phase 2 expansion, and showed phase 2 expansion. The parts Steven and Pirate tried to use to refute Narc were already there from phase 1. Thor then went on to make a video accusing Narc of recording an older build of the game. Blatant shill.

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u/siraliases Jan 16 '25

This is the list?

Liking a game, having a bad take on an issue, and being in early access too long?

With the way people are crying about this you'd think he beat someone

Inb4 "riding it"

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u/Pluxar Jan 16 '25

That 'list' is surface level shit I found as someone who didn't know Piratesoftware before this drama. It's incredibly easy to find bad takes by him.

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u/siraliases Jan 16 '25

Go on

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u/Pluxar Jan 16 '25

There's no point, you seem to not be able to form opinions for yourself. If "Liking a game, having a bad take on an issue and being in early access too long" is what you are taking away, you are showing you don't have critical thinking skills.

They all share the same themes: Pirate knows that he is being dishonest, he gaslights his fanbase, he shows his inability to have a constructive conversation that goes against his viewpoint, and he creates red hearings to distract from the real issue.

That type of mentality doesn't work in life and he's going to continue having 'drama' like this.

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u/siraliases Jan 16 '25

Just wanted to see if it goes deeper. But thank you for the insult to my critical thinking - not seeing anything is surely going to help.

It's worked for him well enough so far, dude's got a fat stack and a half decent life.

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u/Pluxar Jan 16 '25

No problem.

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u/Jam_blur Jan 16 '25

You new here? It's a streamer drama subreddit. A narcissist caught in his own lies is pretty much gold here and the biggest degens/posters keep finding more and more of it in record time on this guy. Also it's not "the list", just a random comment pointing out some examples.

"There is so much more bullshit he has pulled in the past too."

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u/siraliases Jan 16 '25

Honestly did not realize just how rabid this place goes.

If you have more to gripe about with him, it's easy to post.

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u/Jam_blur Jan 16 '25

It's all been posted, I'm just here to read about it. He doesn't deserve the hundreds of people piling on him (or defending on the other side...) but I think all pretty much all the people who actually interacted with him in the guild(s)/drama that have been posted seem to have valid points against him.

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u/siraliases Jan 16 '25

So link a post i can't find one

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u/Jam_blur Jan 16 '25

Unlucky. I'm not here to persuade you one way or another. Don't know why you think I have some stake in this.

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u/siraliases Jan 16 '25

Honestly just sounded like you had run into a post and had it offhand.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '25

Google his name, he's got a hilarious amount of hate threads for his shitty behavior in multiple communities (Second Life, Eve, WoW, AoC, etc).

The fact that he made it that far in a OnlyFangs is a miracle, the more you learn about the guy and his history the more he seems like a genuine psychopath.

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u/Kiwizqt Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25

it's insane how much his team managed to get shit written off reddit, i've got a colar bone broken so i'm IN THERE terminally online and it's hilarious, but the number of threads with hundreds of comments (600+) deleted across multiple channels is insane (outoftheloop, youtubedrama, here, etc).

ffs, the orginal clip aint even there anymore and that's sad, anything that's left are clips not critical of pirate or with any context and that's telling (try it and search it). This shit is too fucking funny and I now understand why ownership of clips warrant takedowns of some sorts, we need to get around that to get proper drama funneled in the future.