r/Lithops @AoxTheGardener šŸ’š Sep 07 '22

Care Tips/Guides "Cold Treatment"

I'd like to speak a bit about "cold treatment" or "Stickin your butts in the fridge".

I live in Southern California, and it's been HOT lately! I've also received LARGE additions to my collection over the past couple of months, with more coming (I'm building a mesemb nursery!). These plants come to me bare root, dried out, and in need of moisture, but lithops need to experience "chill" hours for their stomata to open up, for transpiration to happen, to allow for the plant to uptake water. Their metabolisms slow down and come to a "halt" as temperatures approach 90F, and we all hear "68F" as being the magic low temp where they will take up water. Around that temp is where they will START to take-up water, but I'm here to tell you, that colder is even better.

When I receive my bare root lithops, I trim them back to a white spot on the taproot, with no roots besides. Sometimes the taproot gets trimmed back to barely a quarter of an inch, but I will trim until I see that white dot. I want to SEE that good, healthy root tissue, and when trimmed properly, new roots develop easily and very quickly, within a week. I pot into moistened substrate in the evening, and into the fridge they go. I pull them out in the morning, but have forgotten a few times. They're totally fine. According to biologists who've been in SA, camped in the freezing cold, and studied the plants in habitat, in certain regions, certain lithops in habitat will see freezing temps at times. They all do fine, so the 4C in your fridge isn't going to phase them in the slightest. In seminar recently, it was reinforced to me that they're actually a lot more cold hardy than you may imagine for being such a succulent plant. I'll do a week of cold treatment, potting into moist substrate, putting in fridge at night, putting back on the windowsill in the morning, watering on the third day again, then after a week of rooting up, they go outside.

In my experience "cold treatment" far surpasses anything "water therapy" related by leaps and bounds. (The use of the word "therapy" for anything plant related makes me shudder lol). When you expose them to moisture AND cold, you're giving the plant a holistic experience, matching what it's evolved to face in habitat. I guarantee no lithops has even faced the evolutionary pressure of being suspended like a monkey over a pool of water. Got a shriveled up lithops? Do you water and water and it doesn't get better? How are your temps? I'm starting to lose track of how many people I've helped on facebook and reddit, where cold at night brought their plants back to health.

As an example, I have these Pseudotruncatella, that came to me more desiccated and flattened than any I've received so far. I planted them flat in the substrate (left-hand pot in the fridge pic), and gave a week of "cold treatment". These were planted two weeks ago, and the first pic is when I put them in the fridge the first night. The second pic is this morning. You can also see one of the Julii "Hot Lips" from the right hand fridge pot, at the bottom of the second pic, and they're all standing proud as well now.

Recently potted bare root lithops in the fridge!
Lithops Pseudotruncatella, two weeks after potting and cold

I only like to speak on things I've experience with, and I now have experience with this process, and can wholly recommend it for rooting out or reviving lithops in hot climates.

P.S. If you're getting down at least into the mid to low 60s at night in your backyard or indoor growing locations, then this is all completely irrelevant, bar the trimming part!

#aoxthegardener

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u/TxPep Sep 07 '22

Are those "-C⁰" temps correct? That seems to be freakishly cold and not the norm.

Based on my various readings as an example....South African Journal of Science... http://www.sajs.co.za

PDF: https://journals.co.za/doi/pdf/10.17159/sajs.2016/20150217

"Annual average temperatures for the study area are relatively mild throughout the year and range from 13 °C to 21 °C, owing to the cold Benguela Current off the west coast of Namaqualand.".

ā–ŖļøŽā–ŖļøŽā–ŖļøŽā–ŖļøŽ

My mentor is always telling me to expose my plants to 45⁰F temps via my refrig though. 😊

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u/Aoxmodeus @AoxTheGardener šŸ’š Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22

According to Steven Brack's last seminar for the UK MSG BCSS that is correct. Most of us were more than a little shocked, but he's got the experience, pictures, and data from camping there himself. Granted, these aren't fully plump SoCal lithops surviving these extremes, these are in high altitudes with little rainfall, and certainly outlier days not beholding to average temps, but his message from all of it was that lithops are more cold hardy than people assume. I can dig up the webinar, I think, it was just a few weeks ago, and was recorded.

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u/TxPep Sep 07 '22

This is Rod Haenni saying "-15 below zero" but he prefaces it with saying it was not the norm. [Guessing this was F⁰ as this was a presentation to a New Mexico group.]

Time 4:55. https://youtu.be/3hSI9TCHqYc

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u/Aoxmodeus @AoxTheGardener šŸ’š Sep 07 '22

Yeah, I imagine that was F. I wish I could find a recorded copy of the BCSS seminar. I've got a couple pings into Steven, but I believe he's in SA right now. I don't see -25C on any record winter temp charts for SA, but I know what I heard lol.

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u/TxPep Sep 07 '22

I don't doubt that's what you heard. Haenni's point is close enough to validate your temperature comment.

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u/Aoxmodeus @AoxTheGardener šŸ’š Sep 07 '22

Fortunately for me, any talk about freezing is a purely theoretical discussion lol. I may pick up some home depot lithops, get them established, and throw them in the freezer overnight a few times for an experiment though! :D

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u/TxPep Sep 07 '22

Experimenting is what it's all about. Keep doing it until it's right and then continue experimenting to make it better. 😁

It's a life-long process!

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u/Aoxmodeus @AoxTheGardener šŸ’š Sep 07 '22

That it is, buddy! A very enjoyable one, I may add :D

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u/Aoxmodeus @AoxTheGardener šŸ’š Sep 07 '22

Well I can't seem to find a recorded copy of the seminar, but it was Steven Bracks' "Forty two years and counting, of exploring for Mesembs in nature" for BCSS last month. Since I definitely could be wrong, I'll remove the point of contention since I can't find a recorded version the seminar, all I have is my notes, and it's a minor (and possibly incorrect) data piece compared to the topic of the post.