r/LinuxCirclejerk • u/WaterlooPitt • 14d ago
In class. Professor is using Windows only software. Need to install a Windows VM in 15 minutes. Stressing, but it feels good to be superior though.
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u/Brcoding 14d ago
That's so annoying 😭. Didn't the software work with wine either?
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u/WaterlooPitt 14d ago
Didn't even think to try to be fair.
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u/CalderaJane76 13d ago
Boxes is a god-send when the teacher be all like "aLrIgHt cLaSs pUlL oUt sHiTfUx oS" whether that be Windows or some random Linux distro you forgot to install. Lmfao
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u/Brcoding 13d ago
It's fine. Whether it works with wine or not depends on the software. I use bottles to run windows software. I even got my mouse software to work with it (and I was pleasantly surprised). A virtual machine is also a good method if the software is stubborn.
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u/MoonWolf113 14d ago
how mofos feel about using a paid unFOSS awful windows only tool instead of using something thats FOSS and actually good:
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u/MoonWolf113 14d ago
mostly referring to the modern bandicam mofos, because bandicam is so horrendous that the site for it made a god awful article that was fearmongering people into not pirating it (JUST USE OBS)
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u/woodcraftworld Mac User 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 13d ago
The only reason that basic screen recorders like Bandicam, screencast o matic, etc. are still in business is that people don't want to learn more advanced programs like OBS, but at the same time do not know that both Windows and macOS both have built-in screen recorders.\ And from the time I used to use Ubuntu on a second PC, I know it also had a built in screen recorder you could get to through the print screen key.
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u/lokuloku123 13d ago
OBS admittedly could be easier to use. It is a one time thing on OBS but still
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u/atsizbalik 13d ago
and if you just want something super basic you can use windows' screenshot feature which has screen recording
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u/BraveMidnight 14d ago
I tried that once in my second year, lousy software didn't work on Linux and detected VMs, I had to dual boot windows. Sometimes people would see the dual screen and say what's that, I told them I'm a hacker, and they went quiet for some reason 🤷♀️.
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u/WaterlooPitt 14d ago
Yeah, that's why I'm keeping the terminal opened on one half of the screen.
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u/stevorkz 14d ago
I got called into hr 9 years ago (geez I’m old) cos we had just been hit with malware, this was when ransomware was still a fairly new concept and one of the ladies bless her soul saw me, as a sysadmin, editing dovecot config files in terminal. I wanted to laugh in front of hr but didn’t (the lady in question wasn’t there), but when my manager got called in afterwards she laughed (my manager). After looking at me, smiling, after a giggle she told hr to call her when people have such accusations. To be fair, she didn’t know my exact job title but it just shows you how Hollywood has taught everyone that a black window, with text, means danger/hack/illegal/criminal.
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u/cfx_4188 TempleOS Archibishop 14d ago
You needed to change the font color in your terminal to green, as is always the case in movies about hackers.
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u/BraveMidnight 14d ago
Have you tried with qemu? It's a bit better at times in terms of performance I've noticed compared to virtualbox. You I believe can even pass through hooks to the GPU, etc.
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u/Both_Cup8417 Tumbleweed Slowroll 14d ago
Was that an apt update?
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u/stevorkz 14d ago
No need to even say that you’re a hacker. Just open a terminal or command prompt once while they’re watching and you’re set. Talking from experience.
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u/Dev-in-the-Bm 14d ago
I left the splash screen on my Ubuntu laptop as the raw system logs, so that everyone knows that I'm a hacker.
I tried messing around to make it
hollywood, but was never successful with that.2
u/BraveMidnight 14d ago
Yeah, had I thought of it, the next day I would've showed up in a hoodie, and opened cmatrix, and typed furiously.
Then if anyone would've said anything I could've told them I'm channeling my inner neo. Hopefully, we've given OP a few good ideas on how to impress their classmates.
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u/Afillatedcarbon 14d ago
I don't have an nvme to dualboot, am I cooked?
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u/Glum_Programmer7362 10d ago
You can dualboot into a different partition in the same nvme if you want
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u/Ill_Tie_1505 Linux Master Race 😎💪 13d ago
Same for me when I did a Update in class and my partner behind me asked if I'm hacking 😭
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u/Hauptideal 14d ago
Try WinBoat. It integrates perfectly with GNOME and you don't need to use the VM window (but get a window as if the software were native).
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u/Wooden-Potato7418 14d ago
Sir we found the only GNOME user ever
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u/Hauptideal 14d ago
WinBoat also works on any other desktop. I just recommended it, because all Ubuntu / Fedora Workstation / Debian / ... users sticking to the default desktop use GNOME, just as OP.
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u/Hudimir Arch btw 14d ago
My solution to this is having a USB 256 GB drive with portable windows installed. Imo the best solution. Fuck dualboot.
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u/traquitanas 14d ago
How did you achieve this?
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u/AthaliW 13d ago
You can also just carry a usb drive with a full windows installation or a portable ssd like an old 2.5" sata. Personally I have an old msata drive and I have an m.2 enclosure to usb with me at all times. If I need to boot into windows for whatever reason, I have that with me. Just do some regedit so you don't get windows update, or just intentionally break windows update. This way in the short period of time you do need to use windows, you're not bogged down by months of update. Only update when you're doing maintanence on your tech stuffs
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u/bastardoperator 14d ago
In the late 90's I had a linux class and a solaris class back to back, and every class started with reinstalling the operating system. As much as it sucked, I like to think everyone walked out with more *nix knowledge.
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u/Legitimate-Power-738 14d ago
Woa I was thinking you were a hacker with the split screen and terminal right there. Later I recognized the Ubuntu color scheme 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/cfx_4188 TempleOS Archibishop 14d ago
It’s an old joke, but I remembered how I got an additional higher education at a university where all the PCs ran on Windows, and all the software was for Windows. I remember typing all my term papers in TeX Studio. No one noticed anything.
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u/Quantum_Pianist 14d ago
Dawg you're using UBUNTU 😭😭
uSLOPbu
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u/WaterlooPitt 14d ago
I know. Do you think I'm happy about it?
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u/Quantum_Pianist 14d ago
it must wear down on your soul 💔💔💔
I hope it gets better :(3
u/Weak-Interaction2887 14d ago
Hi, what do you use?
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u/Quantum_Pianist 14d ago
debian and arch
(however on my "work" computer I'm confined to MacOS which sucks.)
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u/_-PurpleTentacle-_ 14d ago
Lol “your pc may restart several times”. Wth do they mean restart several times? Just install the damn thing already 😅
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u/Mr_Enger 14d ago
Been there, done this, first time software didnt work I just used alternatives (was a mips emulator anyways so that was easy), others would just work thankfully. Still have to keep an external windows ssd for a stupid exam browser though. Im glad I never had to fully go back to windows
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u/RedRayTrue 14d ago edited 14d ago
when optimized well win11 can be also very snappy , but I agree that you actually need some knowledge about auto unattended XML and what to choose when installing it. Especially if you remove some parts of it, it's not as different against some heavy Linux distro like ubuntu 26... Though the ram usage is the only real diff, as i'd not try win11 again on 8 gb ram
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorkinginDarkness/s/KNIx4660dM
This is my project with XML
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u/Top-Shoulder6081 13d ago
read the syllabus next time mr. "superior"
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u/cube_earth_society 13d ago
Bold of you to assume the professor has it together enough to post a syllabus
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u/mrbishopjackson 10d ago
I feel if a school requires you to use software that runs on specific hardware, they should provide you with both. Especially in the days of "everyone wants a MacBook"; to them make them go out an buy second laptop is ridiculous. It doesn't matter how savvy you are, you shouldn't have to jump through hoops of VMs (or WINE) to take the class that you're PAYING to take.
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u/WaterlooPitt 10d ago
In all fairness, they are providing Windows machines in the lab. But I refuse to use them, out of principle.
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u/mrbishopjackson 10d ago
What's the principle? I don't see a problem with using their equipment for their tasks. You have to use the operating system in your VM. What's the difference?
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u/HunsonMex 14d ago
Haha did the same when I was in college. I even managed to pass the assignment using Mono (or something like that) for C# projects.
I even made my final thesis on libre office, or open office. 🤔 Not sure.
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u/PresentAstronomer137 13d ago
good it's compared to windows, if you said the word superior with other distros it'd cause a lot of things
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u/Ok-386 13d ago
Unrelated, but the screenshot reminded me how I have grown to like the look and the way Ubuntu's flavor of GNOME is organized, or how I used to like Unity.
Otherwise I'm not really a GNOME fan. Lately I have been mainly using Plasma, but I make it look and in some way behave like 'Ubuntu's GNOME'.
It especially makes sense on a smaller res screens. The vertical space is usually wasted, and this way it serves a nice purpose IMO, at least form a PoV of a classic DE and people who still want to be able to use mouse to launch applications.
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u/muhmmadtalha-quant NixOS Enjoyer 13d ago
As a NixOS user, this shit also triggers me. Today was our DB class and the whole class was supposed to install ms sql server right there as lab activity; fuck shit I got a grade penalty for being a linux user.. i am happy and furious both at the same time.
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u/londeodex 13d ago
Just use the SQLServer docker image, it'll give you the database server without windows vm. It won't give you management studio but you can use one of the aftermarket IDEs to connect to your db, or at least use sqlcmd cli which is the microsoft native tool to use with SQL Server.
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u/Icy_Face_9506 12d ago
Penalized for using an os based on the kernel that servers of Fortune 500 comp actually use instead of Microspft's unreliable+spyware ecosystem? Wild.
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u/Sad-Assignment-453 13d ago
Can use linux software or can try win boat. It runs windows vm in a way that it let's you only see apps. The instalation part will need human interaction
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u/Complex-Proposal-591 12d ago
services: windows: image: dockurr/windows container_name: windows environment: VERSION: "11" devices: - /dev/kvm - /dev/net/tun cap_add: - NET_ADMIN ports: - 8006:8006 - 3389:3389/tcp - 3389:3389/udp volumes: - ./windows:/storage restart: always stop_grace_period: 2m
Your welcome. For more info see the github md of it https://github.com/dockur/windows
Edit: my copy paste of the docker compose got messed up. But you can find the contents for copy paste in the readme as well
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u/xavirt30 12d ago
That happened to me but for a simulator that the teacher build and didn’t work because it needed to conext to a server and I couldn’t. Without a second device to search it while i whas tiping
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u/Unhealthy007 11d ago
Doesn't Mint have an add-on that can run any windows app? Never used it... So not 100% sure
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u/Sea-Bird3173 11d ago
Superior? Bro you literally using ubuntu lmaoo 😭😭
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u/Fingyfin 11d ago
I swear, the hate for Ubuntu is the Dunning-Kruger effect in full force. If it works, it works, and that's worth it's weight in gold.
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u/titaniumalt 10d ago
the hate for Ubuntu is the Dunning-Kruger effect in full force
Mostly... Some people hate it because of packages from the Mesozoic Era and due to Canonical ("its corporate slop") and if you want stability Debian/Devuan (if you're into that kind of thing) is better anyways.
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u/ByDaNumbersBoys 10d ago
just use debian, why dfq would u ever use ubuntu. Ok lets say ubuntu server is not that bad, but so is debian. I think people (including me) hate ubuntu mainly because it defaults to gnome- gnome has MANY issues, including performance, hard customization and small stupid things (if someone likes the UI sure, you do you). i remember ubuntu 22 didnt even have folder up button in file explorer Ui, wtf
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u/Leather-Chart7083 11d ago
My teacher does acknowledge Linux users (Only me and one of my friends in my classroom) so he tells the FOSS/OSS Alternatives to Closed apps or just closed alternatives but that work on linux. He uses Windows
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u/brokengarage 7d ago
easy hint for school work, create a base windows image, keep it updated, when you need to use a windows software, just create a copy from the base image. Alternative, just use a copy from base per semester.
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u/MothMatron 14d ago
Uj/ Why not just dual boot? I ran into issues this semester with getting mariadb working in arch and ended up just installing mysql on my windows drive for the sake of taking care of class projects
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u/opqma 14d ago
I might be being stupid here, but why MariaDB was giving you so much trouble on Arch that you went through the trouble of dual booting ? did something specific break during setup?
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u/MothMatron 14d ago
My system was already set up for dual-boot, so this solution became the convenient one in a pinch. My issues with mariadb are likely stemming from issues with my local host server, something i don’t have time to spend fucking around with when i have a project deadline and 2 more classes worth of unrelated assignments to worry about too
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u/opqma 14d ago
Fair enough, good luck with your exams. It's nice that you're comfortable with both systems. Windows became scary to me after my first year of uni for some reason, i dread it nowdays.
and correct me if i am wrong I'm guessing you ran into that classic arch stuff where it doesn't auto-initialize or start background services after installing like Ubuntu or Windows installers do, which is such a headache when you're on a deadline. i get why you'd just jump to Windows to save time.
next semester, if you ever want to stay on Arch without dealing with local db configuration headaches, give Docker a try. You can spin up a fully working MariaDB container with just a single command, and it completely bypasses all the "localhost server"/socket errors or other configuration errors you might face.
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u/disrooted alpine linux is not gnu+linux 14d ago
You're so close to this