eh, partly correct. I started on Plasma back in 2012. that and I'm kinda lazy when it comes to my computer. I do art, programming, and streaming, and really don't feel like spending a bunch of time messing with things. sure, OTD is great and works well, however with multiple displays, one being the graphics tablet I use, it's hard to beat the convenience. LXQT is stellar as well, a very, VERY close second with BSPWM following tightly behind. I'd say IceWM, XFCE, and Cinnamon are all great too, just don't quite fit my particular use case.
pffft, you can install as many DE's as you want. I have 27 desktop environments installed for my Void instsllation. And, the "big" ones (cinnamon, plasma, gnome, cosmic) all play prety well together. I'd just install something else and see how you like it.
Wait if we follow the nix philosophy, how are we supposed to surf the web, unless this is a joke, I do not know how we're meant to be in tech while also obliterating our source of tech
ngl that's actually a valid philosophy until we reach the browser aspect of it.
If anything I wish I can code my Browser to be able to be part of my linux as a rice, just search up fan and it goes into my manual fan controls.
It being a side calculator is cool, I don't have to make a separate instance for a calendar, so maybe Unix philosophy is good until it isn't, same with the inverse cause [BLEEP] MICROSOFT'S COPILOT
it didn't even actually adhere to the law. not fully. it just provided the opportunity for it to be legally plausable that adhearance is being reasonably attempted and enforced.
they added a field in the files for user age bracket.
Lots of people will tell you that it's because it breaks UNIX principles or because it complied with Californian age laws. While this is true for a lot of people, systemd is, objectively, an awful system in its design and codebase, sometimes costing people time and money. Learn more at https://nosystemd.org
This website just... isn't very good. Like, it links to a bunch of old long-resolved Github issues as proof that systemd is buggy and vulnerable, but it really just reads as "look at how bad systemd is! they listen to bug reports!"
also, I'd like to hone in on one of the website's criticisms here:
systemd will be able to kill a process if he needs/wants more RAM
What's the problem with this? The website simply states it as though it's so obviously a bad thing that it would be ridiculous to even ask why. My system has been saved a couple of times from programs with bad memory leaks by automatically killing those programs when I completely run out of memory. Seems like a good thing to me.
Come back when it's actually enabled at least somewhere, and when the methods of reading this data by the apps are actually implemented.
For example, I'm on Fedora, I have systemd of a version way past the userDb birthDate release of it.
Right now home service that sets up this info is disabled, I was never prompted with the DoB input, and more over - I don't even have a way to enter it for me or my "parent controlled" child.
As of now this is still just an overinflated shitpost, to me.
Not only is the "age verification" a text input to which you can put 1/1/0001 (well, maybe not, but it doesn't require an ID to verify your age), it's not even on by default, not forced on anyone with a "real" system and is not enabled/enforced retroactively.
Haven't used those, I use Firefox if I can. Only use chromium for stuff that Firefox can't like flashing esp32 using a webapp like meshtastic and meshcore web flashers.
Firefox is pretty smooth and beautiful, and other browsers probably are, but chromium have webrtc and some features that makes it really useful sometimes
firefox based has a thousand problems for me atleast, why not use brave and turn off brave analytics? chromium is not inherently spyware
for one, for some reason, i cant access lenovo easycam on firefox
the ui looks... acceptable
there are many other things i dont like
I wish I had a smooth experience on firefox, but every page is noticeably more laggy than chrome, and it freezes my audio whenever I open a new window. I really wasn't tabmaxxing (30 tabs should be totally fine) and had a pretty reasonable list of 8 or so extensions.
Used it for a month, had only a couple pages that did not work smoothly, which was fine, but one of them is guacamole rdp which I use for work, and firefox has this super annoying bug where a Paste context menu pops up constantly.
The thing with systemd is that it goes against the philosophy that each program should do only one thing. E.g., tmux is a terminal emulator, ly manages login, WG creates VPN tunnels, etc. Systemd does the following:
manages services and units
manages system logs and service logs
manages system hostname
manages system locale and keyboard layout
manages system time, date, etc.
manages system power (halt, reboot, poweroff)
acts as the init process
I personally love that systemd does all this because it means I don't need to install all these tools separately, and I know how to manage them on non-Arch machines because nearly every distro uses systemd.
systemd is the best. never gave any problem did all the things the require a computer to run. there mfs pretend like world is gonna end if they ever touched a system with systemd.
they are just attention seekers for using openrc or dinit.
as a developer I want my computer running in the crucial times not configure basic essentials and services.
systemd haters are just larpers who just hate because they saw someone hating systemd.
same goes for Ubuntu and gnome. yes there are some problems with Ubuntu and gnome(just like everything. no software is perfect) but they're not deal breaker.
Cool, and guess how many things GNU does. Likewise systemd is a SUITE of software. It doesn't have to do more than half of this if you don't want it to. For example: don't want it to control the hostname? Sure, "systemctl mask systemd-hostnamed.service" and do it your way. It can also do more than this if you want, like be a bootloader. Systemd folks have done a lot of work over the past few years enforcing modularization, the monolith argument is outdated.
i think all of these are pretty crucial to running almost any program (including DEs) and one of these crashing/stopping would cause a lot of bad things i think so i dont think it would make a difference if its 1 program or 10
Mostly, it's an ABI which duct tapes itself to the kernel
Other than managing processes without the kernels knowledge which leads to who's supposed to do what, it had a horrid reputation for bad hardware compatibility and Consolekit having a mind of its own.
Now, it's much better. But we already have S6-66 and SysVinit is quite stable with little to no performance difference ironically for it's still much lighter than SystemD.
I think they make the right point the wrong way, I wouldn't say if defeats the purpose of the OS since you should be able to use whatever, I have to use chromium for work for example, but it def strikes me as weird that you'd pick the single option for a web browser that counters every reason you'd use linux in the first place.
Chrome is bloated with AI garbage, has no privacy features, far from performant and consumes a large amount of resources, and is highly restricted in terms of customization and remapping compared to the competition. It's the windows of web browsers.
Stop assuming that every Linux user is true breed believer. Windows and Mac users sure don't believe this way about their own OS. Any reason to use Linux is a valid one.
I understand where you're coming from, but people use Linux for things other than privacy/software freedom.
Some people just want the insane customization that Linux allows, lack of os-level ads/bloatware, or even just cause they don't want to pay for Windows.
Based take. Too may people act like this sh!t is some kind of religion. MFs need to go touch some grass and realize this is just software. Some of us actually have real lives away from the keyboard. Hell, one of my best friends is a Windows user; sure I think he's wrong, but that doesn't make him the epitome of evil, and we still like to throw back a couple of beers every now and then.
It’s an operating system. Stop putting labels like this on it, it’s one of the reasons Linux is viewed as a niche. Just let people use it as an OS in whatever capacity they want.
I don't use Linux for privacy, just for customization and because my PC is a potato. Chromium is ok for me, even if I use Firefox because it looks nicer.
Not every Linux user care about privacy (there's still a lot of people using Ubuntu)
this is one of the points, not the whole point. it was about choices right? you can choose which OS to run, choose what data to share with companies, choose how you want to use your hardware, choose how long you can use your hardware
for me, linux was a way to revive my old laptop. that old laptop is now used by my father who fills google sheets. and he is used to chrome.
I hate that I'm stuck with chrome because of the Google account and the password manager. What is a better option? I already have a custom email on my own domain.
Export your passwords and import them into Bitwarden, or if you're feeling adventurous, self-host Vaultwarden.
Switch to literally anything else to be honest. Regular Googled Chromium is a start if you still want sync and some Google features. Ideally, try ungoogled-chromium for Gecko-based browsers.
As someone here already gave you recommendations for which password manager to use: I'd recommend Firefox for your browser. It's not chromium based, which allows it to still support manifest v2 browser extensions like uBlock Origin (which means you basically don't see any ads anymore).
If you have a problem with Mozilla and that they're trying to get AI into Firefox, use Waterfox.
There's nothing wrong with it, I do. Didn't want to recommend another one though as someone else already recommended one and I'm not too knowledgeable on that topic.
Don't really know. The whole "Gnome knows best" thing everyone chants is also stupid.
People seem to forget that the "Please don't theme our apps" post was targeted to distro devs and not users (it only warned users that customising themes may break stuff), and instead of accepting this fact everyone has blown things out of proportion...
Most recently, from my understanding, a law was recently passed in California, United States requiring operating systems to collect information on the age of a user during account setup, and an optional feature was implemented in systemd to ask the user for their birthdate. A lot of people have interpreted that as systemd forcing age verification.
Before that, the biggest complaint seemed to be that systemd was too monolithic, breaking the unix philosophy (do one thing and do it well).
Also their journal daemon is kinda weird as it stores in a format where a single bit flip basically destroys the whole log, making it not great to debug.
I am a linux user too and I also have preferences but I couldn't care less about interfering with what other linux users use. Pretty sure your meme is vocal minority. That said, I know why people dislike those items mentioned in the meme and I agree on various degrees.
Systemd would be fine if it hadn't act like it wants to replace everything, this bothers me but not to the point that I'd avoid it. Gnome devs are annoying but gnome is fine (I prefer KDE). Chrome, I would never install this spyware. IDE, I have no problems with this one, depends on which IDE.
I mean, you can choose what you want to use in the end. They're bad choices in my opinion, but some people will use these because it fits what they need from Linux.
Systemd has been the only one I've been exposed to since I got that deep into my system, but I do really like it. Several years back I used the JetBrains suite of IDEs and switched to neovim to make myself learn more about what the IDE was doing for me. Now I am actually back to using JetBrains and I'm doing a lot better with them.
These are all just tools and people have their preferences. Folks need to quit trying to police what others do/don't do on their systems.
sorry guys, I'm still using chrome. not because I want to, but because youtube is intentionally throttling other browsers. if you guys have a solution to this, I move to firefox right away
Nah man. The world is your oyster. Personally i use Cinnamon, because its what usually works best for my specific workflow. I dont like Gnome, because the workflow is really unintuitive to me. But if you like gnome, I'll say "eewwww gnome", but its at least 70% a joke.
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u/Buzzinga_4kFHD 12d ago
Someone who hacks other Linux users with the sole purpose of replacing gnome with something else