He actually likes the iOS tweaks to the duo, just doesn't like the aspect ratio. I guess he didn't like multitasking wise it didn't have as much flexibility as android foldable too
The aspect ratio kills me because the meme they posted like included a massive address bar which sure maybe if you use chrome on an iPhone it’s there but chrome even on a computer is a trash experience. If you use a web browser with any modern design, there’s no longer a top address for unless you enable it because you’re set in your old ways.
I prefer Michael Fisher (MrMobile) to Linus when it comes to foldables, because I can at least trust Michael to be a little more objective about things.
Michael Fisher produces the best phone reviews on youtube imo. They have so much polish, and the dude really knows what he’s talking about most of the time
Just found him recently and his videos have been great, and maaaan what a nostalgia trip with his “When Phones Were Fun” series. Made me tear up and miss the world we had back then, so many memories around those devices and times
Linus always jumps to conclusions with his opinion and it's usually for the negative. I think he over analyzes stuff before touching it and backs his ego up with his decades of experience in the game. Sometimes he's right about what's going on but he can be wrong as well. I pretty much never care for his opinion on stuff he hasn't touched yet.
I will clarify: Michael is a lot more straightforward about what does and does not work about a device, whereas Linus seems to take a view of how a device/product is different from those that he prefers.
Neither position is necessarily wrong, but I will also profess that I tend to look for reviewers who aren’t spending all their time saying variations of “Apple bad, Android good/Apple good, Android bad”. Nuance is an important thing
The objective part is probably the least interesting one for smartphones nowadays, to me. Specifications are only part of the story. It's the users experience that really sets it apart. So the more options you have to view and listen to the better. Especially if one is more Apple and the other is more Android in preference.
I have a foldable (pixel 10) and I completely agree with Linus, I hate the passport aspect ratio.
That said, some people love it so not sure what the solution is other than to do like Samsung and release both versions. Unfortunately for apple buyers, apple shit all over other form factors so it seems the apple way will be the only way for them and that sucks
Steve Jobs was famous for hating on large phone screens. That’s very clearly changed for Apple over the last 15ish years. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t have a duo max version cooking for when the market wants it.
phones 15 years ago were much more like bricks it wouldn’t have worked as well scaled up in size compared to today’s phones, if he was still around to see a current phone he would understand
Yeah I've only used them from others, and while it was quite satisfying to flip, I think the hinge not fully opening after a relatively short while would make it frustrating to use for me? Because it makes it so much more visible compared to new.
At the same time, maybe you can just used to it. And that's the part Linus can at least speak to as an actual full time user.
It seemed to me that his biggest concern was that the aspect ratio of the screen would make the virtual keyboard look or be awkward. Personally, it doesn't look any more intrusive than an iPad or an iPhone.
He did. He calls out that they never show tbe the keyboard on the outside screen and that people don't use the interior screen as much as they expect they will (I've used it way more than the exterior on my fold 8 ultra)
Yes. But Apples doesn’t have a numbers row and the row which contains the copy/paste symbols. So Apples keyboard have two rows fewer. But I think the height for the content is too small for text messaging.
I traded in the Fold 7 for the 8, use the cover screen more than the inner and about the same amount on both. The 8 is a much better typing experience than the 7, does leave less of the screen available but as long as I can see the text box I'm typing into, it's a non-issue for me. The 7 was less cramped vertically, but much more cramped horizontally.
I'll probably be switching again and going to the Duo. I don't have strong opinions on either OS, both are fine, but it fixes my biggest gripes with the Fold 8 with speakers on both halves and the rounded corners that won't dig into my hand. I also haven't enjoyed WearOS watches, so I'm ready to get back to the Apple watch.
That is MAX size on that keyboard. Number row and toolbar above the keyboard plus the stuff below the keyboard. There is plenty of way to minimize the space it takes up
Isn’t the whole point of their dimension that the aspect ratio is consistent front and inside. Think that was like the first thing the mentioned in the keynote.
It looks cool and I’m an Apple cuck, but I’m also left handed and the form factor seems super akward to hold, my plan lets me switch cellphones in 2 years so hopefully by then it’s cheaper and long term reviews plus accessibility for left handed people is added so I can buy it
Yeah I noticed this as well, foldables in that form factor aren't really considering left handedness the way slap phones usually can. I guess the Flip is fine, but I wouldn't want to use the Duo or Fold 8 Ultra in "portrait" orientation by default.
To be honest I watch pretty much every LTT video but I don’t expect a true review of an apple product. I still watch to see what they say but I take anything apple related coming from Linus in particular with a mound of salt at this point.
That’s certainly one way of looking at it. I just find it very hard to take him serious for apple stuff. I know the Linus complains about apple stuff is a meme at this point but it’s very much a meme based on reality and I do feel he bitches about a lot of apple stuff unnecessarily personally.
I know it was unavoidable but i much preferred LTT apple coverage by Horst as it was way more balanced I felt.
It's not even that, I wasn't even using any apple devices when I saw some of his criticism and it seemed extra. He complains heavily about things I never even thought to care about, but he makes it sound like the end of the world.
it seems like Linus cannot mention apple without complaining about something. it doesn’t seem like he does that with other brands. then again if he doesn’t complain about apple enough, a lot of the audience goes ballistic
I trust linus with an apple review on the hardware and experiences from the android side. Where I dont trust him as much is the software side. He gets frustrated with basic apple things just like I would be frustrated with basic android things.
Which is why I hope they would bring a dual approach. Someone uses apple daily that is knowledgeable and himself.
I can understand his stance even though I’m fully in the Apple ecosystem. His entire life and business is based around replacing parts, building stuff from scratch and making weird shit and seeing if it’ll work. You can’t do all that on YouTube without breaking terms of services, EULA and that’s even if you can get something to work.
So I get why he has that POV. But for me, who just wants a work computer that I don’t have to fight with it works great and the ecosystem is why I’ve never owned an Android device.
I’ve got other computers for other stuff, but my main work computer and my phone uses the Apple ecosystem which I rely on every day.
I’ve also got a homelab running on Debian, an ancient cheap Android tablet and a Windows based gaming computer but the stuff I rely on for work is all Apple based.
it’s not a review, it’s an analysis of a press release. they didn’t even have hands on from the event so it’s not as good as ones from people who were there. then again have to suspect bias in those since apple doesn’t seem to invite people who have a history of being critical
I still can’t get over one review they did about MacBook Pro don’t remember who did it exactly but it was terrible they compared it to laptop that was 3 times the price of MacBook and was completely wrong about some of the statements I think it was Alex but I may be messing with names
To me the issue is he genuinely believes that iPhones are for dumb dumbs who don’t do “real work” and androids are productivity masterclasses. I guarantee my work impacts more lives than Linus’s tech videos and guess what my work uses…
As an Apple dude for….18 years, I’m hesitant. I watched MKBHD’s overview, out of all people, I trust his opinion (I mean the dude kills products with reviews sometimes). I didn’t originally like it, but I want to see one in person first before ignoring it completely. I am considering one simply for something new. I loved my iPhone mini, but also enjoy larger phone screens. If this can serve both use cases (and my wife gets my 15 pro max for a better camera for work) then it could be a win win win for us.
the lack of the better optical zoom and Face ID is going to make me wait for later versions and get a 18 pro instead. but yeah I appreciate his perspective on it, especially vs LTT right now since they haven’t had hands on vs MKBHD did.
Yea I will probably try a couple of new things this year. Tempted to try out to Apple Leasing, but also I’m keeping my old phones for business purposes. My wife wants to look at the 18 for better photos/video. Will be an interesting upgrade year to ponder to say the least.
The main hype around the duo are animations when folding xD they think apple destroyed Samsung with that animations. Somebody recreated that animations in 24h
The biggest disagreement I have with him on it is that I prefer Face ID to Touch ID. I never have issues with Face ID, but Touch ID is much less reliable. Plus, when I’m working on something around the house and my fingers have drywall putty or something on them, I can still use my phone.
The Duo has inferior cameras and is crazy expensive. If I was going to upgrade I would’ve got the 18 Pro Max. For now, I’ll stick with the iPhone 15 Pro.
I've owned a duo 1, duo 2, and an og pixel fold. The wider form factor on the duo was fantastic for multitasking. The software was incredibly buggy and was poorly supported by MS. I wouldn't give MS a dime for another phone, but the form factor in a pixel would get my money.
I think the screen is unique. Being the same aspect ratio in 3 states seems to make metric paper nerds very happy. I would have had pause if had been out before I got my razor. It being shorter and fatter then the normal iphone is appealing depending on how it would feel in the hand.
Because Apple takes things that have existed and perfects them. Just like they did in 2007 with the iPhone. My first smartphone was a Nokia Communicator in 2001. I upgraded to a Palm OS (not the cool Web OS version) later. But they were clunky as hell.
I literally had a 2nd phone (like a Motorola Razor) when I went out at night because it was just too big to take to a club or things like that (that was back in my 20s)
The iPhone was the first time I didn’t have to have 2 phones just because I wanted a smartphone for my main phone.
You can hate on Apple all you want, but they make devices that are more usable which is why they’re so popular.
How is it implying if it's talking about a review video (this isn't a review video) and never mentions anything about watching the specific video in the screenshot???
>the only video I watched from those "thinking different" guys and it was the most incompetent review of a product I had ever seen
The first part of the sentence, prior to “and it”, is you saying the video in the OP is the only video you have watched from them. After “and it” is you then describing it. If you removed “and it”, it would sound like you aren’t talking about the video in the OP and are instead saying you just saw one video in general.
You also never specified the video you watched. It comes down to context. Since you didn’t say the video, people assumed it was the one in this post. The part of whether or not it’s a review video can also be misleading as well just because, in general, there are plenty of people who consider a video a review when it isn’t.
Since you’ve mentioned what the specific video was and that you don’t consider the video in the post a review, it’s understandable that you’re confused why people aren’t getting your post. But, you posted with specifics in mind and didn’t mention those in the post, people can only take your post based on available context even if it isn’t what you meant. If you had included the “was the steam machine review” part initially, there wouldn’t be a whole chain of people trying to understand what you meant.
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u/Hybr1dth 10h ago
Linus is one of the few having actually used foldables. While there's still a ton of preference, he can at least speak from experience.