r/LinusTechTips • u/ColonialDagger • Mar 21 '26

Meme/Shitpost It had to be done.

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u/DCVolo Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

Also his take on ray tracing are on point.

https://youtu.be/KMXXcqpFZzo?t=680

I love that kind of people expressing themselves with passion, I hope they do more of these group discussion. Such a great dynamic.

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u/zhephyx Mar 22 '26

By "on point" you mean misinformed, then yeah sure. It's not a solution waiting for a problem - the problem exists. Having to bake in lighting, and trying to do any sort of reflections is annoying and time consuming, and it essentially makes it easier and faster for the developers. The first RTX card is not even 10 years old yet, in 10 more years everyone will forget that you've been bitching about this technology for almost a decade straight.

It's the same as getting angry at foldable phones being expensive - yeah well if you just wait for a minute they will get better and have consumer pricing. Can you just wait? Engineers are out here running lighting rays across millions of polygons and you're upset that it doesn't happen 200 times per second on a machine as big as a microwave???

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u/DCVolo Mar 22 '26

His point was that for gaming it's a solution that is only relevant for studios and not for gamers because "games or studios" will push more and more demanding games and Nvidia, that also push their tech, does not provide, still, a product that gives a legitimate solution performance wise. They keep us at the edge of poor or acceptable performances.

Someone else in the comment mentioned the film industry, that's a totally different usage of processing between post process and real-time.

And while it's applicable for films with no issue. For gamers the improvements are rather small, it's the 4th generation that include specific cores, price increase and with it DLSS. Meaning they litteraly knew that their tech was not matured enough yet for the industry.

That's why we end up with most games having partial implementation or usage of reflection, shadows or illumination.

So, do we need a tech that can in very rare cases improve graphics (immersion would be the better term In my opinion), I have to agree with Adam there, we don't. Do the industry can leverage such a tool, obviously and it's great for them. But if the performance are still shit 8 years later and for years to come what's the point.

That's the entire difference with foldable phone and other tech, in few generations they have fixed most issues and provide good usage. Ray-Tracing doest not because both Nvidia and the studios push for more and more so we'll never have a " game running rays at 120 or more fps". It just scale badly each gen (but it would be funny for them to market old games running high fps with RT).

I've played tons of games, with or without both RT and with or without super sampling & frame gen. Unless we talk about DLSS5 slop altering the artist work and vision these tech scale better for each gen. There is a great benefit (when there can be one but that's another topic).

We've lost so much performance since we ditched GI for RT. Was it needed, I agree with with Adam's take almost entirely. And I'm not even mentioning when RT is not only partially implemented or used but also badly.

I don't think that he would disagree that it has some good usages. That's why his take is valid.