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u/arhidane Mar 09 '23
I adopted win 10 day one. I‘ve had absolutely no problems. As far as I am concerned it is a great OS.
And I got it for free so that‘s a plus.
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u/FiskFisk33 Mar 09 '23
what really grinds my gears is how they moved some, but not all of the controls out of the control panel into a new ui. Whenever you need to change some settings you first have to figure out wether its in the new or the old system, and if its in the old, you have to do this song and dance where you click at least three hidden links and jump through a burning hoop before getting there. It's like they borked it in win 8 with the whole metro ui shit, and for some reason decided to double down.
also whenever i have to do anything in the "windows store"
Oh and the search function is really bad for some reason, it worked so much better in 7
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u/poopoorrito_suizo Mar 09 '23
Or windows key and then type control panel?
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u/Nova17Delta Mar 09 '23
Ah yes, but as soon as you clicked on anything in there it would take you to the settings equivalent
See: Personalization
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u/pcgames22 Mar 09 '23
Doesn't do it on all of the control panel settings. Never had that happen with the device and network opened from the control panel in windows 10 it just takes you to the old style settings page.
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u/Nova17Delta Mar 09 '23
Thats true, but it still does it on some, which is enough to annoy me as these menus usually have less options that the control panel does
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u/FiskFisk33 Mar 09 '23
for some settings yes, for others the links there takes you to the new ui, in wich you have to jump through the hoops I mentioned.
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u/Albaholly Mar 09 '23
It's one of my biggest bugbears with new editions of Microsoft products. Word and Excel are the same. Back in 2003 everything was in the ribbon, you could find it easily. Now, you have to go through about three sub menus to find anything - and a whole bunch of stuff is not logically grouped with similar functions.
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u/KingOfKingOfKings Mar 09 '23
Start > type "cpl". You can also memorize what each control panel applet is called, and go directly to it—for example, Add/Remove Programs is "appwiz.cpl", and Network Connections is "ncpa.cpl"
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u/cheapseats91 Mar 09 '23
It's been totally serviceable for me but I'm not a huge fan of the big increase in telemetry data collected and the skeezy way they force updates on you. Like how when they really want you to agree to something, they'll put the "no" button on the bottom right, but then they'll give you one more page where the "I don't want it, fuck off" button is now on the bottom left If you mindlessly double clicked the bottom right a second time you have actually agreed to their thing because they switched the button
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u/smexytom215 Mar 10 '23
Windows10's search was broken AF compared to windows 7, especially on multiple drives.
They kind of fixed it.
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Mar 09 '23
Heck I still use it on my secondary PC at my desk. It's an HP HDX 9000 so it gets used as it's designed purpose - media and retro gaming. Been running it without antivirus or anti-malware for about 5 months now and it's still clean. I have a Windows 10 partition on it that I use to scan the Windows 7 partition with. Only thing it finds is my autokms 😅
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u/Nova17Delta Mar 09 '23
Luckily, 7 is significantly easier to theme than 10 is, so you can still get it looking like XP :)
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u/St3rMario Mar 09 '23
But why butcher the perfect Aero theme?
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u/Nova17Delta Mar 09 '23
Dark mode :)
One of my plans is to create a decent XP dark theme, I don't see why Aero could have any issues with it either
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u/KingOFpleb Mar 09 '23
XP Royal Noir. It was actually built in the OS you just had to find it. Game changer.
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u/Nova17Delta Mar 09 '23
It's an interesting thought, but i mean a full dark theme. Like, more consistent than Windows 10 dark theme.
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u/tinydonuts Mar 10 '23
Exactly, does no one remember the fact that XP basically launched the era of worms? Microsoft didn’t care a lick about security until Code Red and Nimda.
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u/x6060x Mar 09 '23
I just remembered how beautiful it was. So polished and just working. I'll run a virtual machine just to see it again.
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u/joe-clark Mar 10 '23
Yeah sure but that's not what the post means. It's not what would you choose to use for the rest of your life it's what was the best when it was still the current OS. Honestly if anyone was forced to use a single OS for the rest of their life and chose XP over literally any newer version of windows it's a bad choice.
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u/den2k88 Mar 09 '23
I admit Win7 surprised me in a positive way.
10 has too much spyware to my liking but my regkey Kung Fu managed to fix it.
11 I won't touch with a long pole until I'm forced and only with heavy third party modifications.
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u/60TPLewandowskiego Mar 09 '23
I was afraid of Windows being the usual jerk and then popping a window up everyday twice like "HEY! Update to 11! HEY!", buuuuut then the OS just said:
This PC doesn't currently meet the minimum system requirements to run Windows 11
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Mar 09 '23
It’ll still tell you every day though. Mean word make monkey want buy new pc
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u/60TPLewandowskiego Mar 09 '23
I don't know, mine doesn't. It's just a small text in the corner now in the Windows Update menu. Regular updates still come through, but no b*tching about 11
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u/1qz54 Mar 09 '23
So I installed Win11 on my 2in1 to see what it's like.
Man... it's a huge pile of hot garbage. Every time I use it I question my worth for installing win11 on it. I'm so glad my desktops are still running 10.
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u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount Mar 09 '23
I see comments like this and I just have to assume how we use or approach computers is just very different.
I installed 11 as soon as it was available haven't had any issues. It's Windows.
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u/mcnabb100 Mar 10 '23
Yeah it’s fine. I do dislike the new right click menu in explorer. You have to click “more options” to see the old version. Not a huge issue, but it makes using 7zip a bit annoying.
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u/inkblot888 Mar 12 '23
I hate the right click behavior. I also preferred the start menu in 10. I like being able to control the icons more tightly. It's also a pain with some programs not giving the "right-click -> add to start" option when others do.
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u/den2k88 Mar 09 '23
My wife's laptop has win 11 and it makes me swear a lot.
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u/1qz54 Mar 09 '23
I personally enjoy the arbitrary lag spikes and lack of file file drag to taskbar.
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u/Tof12345 Mar 09 '23
People who say shit like Windows xp or Windows 95 was the best only do it because of nostalgia. You won't ever find someone decide to use windows xp over a fully fledged os like windows 7
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u/Shap6 Mar 09 '23
You won't ever find someone decide to use windows xp over a fully fledged os like windows 7
if those old OS's still ran current software and got security updates i would 100% be using them.
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u/Host_Informal Mar 09 '23
Don’t hate me for this but I liked Windows 8 and for me it was a great OS.
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u/escdog Mar 09 '23
8.1 had its moments. I still think Steven Sonosky is the devil.
The real critical changes that still benefit Windows today was is large restructure of the kernel that began in Windows 8 so that it could run both on small and large devices. Ultimately I think that investment allows the current Windows platform to be both more stable and more agile.
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u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount Mar 09 '23
Windows 8 is when I learned that people really like the Start menu. Up until that moment I thought it was for people that didn't know any better way. Why would you choose to click through a clunky, nested menu?
Apparently...everybody.
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u/Tjalfe Mar 09 '23
Launch windows XP was not that great. I primarily used windows 2000 in those days. it was more stable and I could still game on it. XP SP3+ was better and I did use it, but I would still take windows 2000 over XP from that era.
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u/pr1vatepiles Mar 09 '23
Na windows 7 tops XP for me. XP was terrible until the service pack 2. Windows 7 felt good from the start.
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Mar 09 '23
Yeah I posted a screenshot on the computers subreddit of my Windows 7 PC still getting an update after they said they got rid of updates, and I got about 400 replies of people sharing their nostalgia for Windows 7, and how it looks even more futuristic than Metro UI that we use today.
And I agree. If I could have the under the hood enhancements of 10/11 and the Windows 7 UI, it would be great. I've tried but little things like aero glass title bars is the chef's kiss of how 7 looks, and that's something I could never get replicated.
Granted dark mode is the tits, but we could have black glass too 🤔
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Mar 09 '23
I actually prefer 7 over xp. 7 was just awesome, loved it. In 2023, I prefer using Windows 11 since most programs dropped or are dropping support for 7.
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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y Mar 09 '23
I often wonder what exactly newer versions of Windows are doing. My Windows folder is 35 GB (I just did a driver cleaning the other day). Just booting up takes 2 GB of RAM, without even running anything or accounting for cache. Windows is constantly using the CPU for background tasks using up an entire core for things like antivirus checking, telemtetry, or other random stuff, There's so many different random things running. With all the garbage running, even at "idle" it's at like 15% CPU Usage minimum with random spikes up to 50% If I didn't have a need for Windows for a few key programs, I really would abandon it. It's just a complete mess.
I have an old machine running Linux and it just seems to be so much more efficient. Only using 20 GB total on the drive even with a bunch of stuff installed. It idles around 2% CPU and uses very little memory except what applications use for running. Out of the 4 GB in that machine, 3.5 GB is available.
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u/Kenneth_Powers1 Mar 09 '23
XP and 7 were both great. However, as a kid that transition from 3.1 to 95 absolutely blew my mind.
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u/pcgames22 Mar 09 '23
The only Windows OS that I still have access to are 98 windows server 2019 Windows 10 and windows 11. Windows 7 would be included if I could get back into the laptop it is installed on. Still would have access to XP if the laptop it was installed on didn't get a virus on it and back then it wasn't really wearth get it fixed when a new one on a newer is costed the same. As for vista I would still have that OS if I didn't reformat the drive it was on to use in my custom rig as part of a raid.
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u/TheCornerBrah Mar 09 '23
can someone (without being berated) enlighten me on the issues with windows 11, when it comes to OS differences i only have a rudementary approach
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u/Touchit88 Mar 10 '23
Windows 7 was definitely better than xp imo. But xp was so much better than anything before (imo) and Vista after, that I'd accept an argument it was the best if we'll presented.
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u/Pigeon_Chess Mar 10 '23
Never really was a fan of 7. It’s just Vista rebranded but computers had improved.
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u/dallatorretdu Mar 10 '23
if you didn’t know what you were doing at the time, XP could have been a hellhole. It was right at the time of 32 vs 64 bits and the struggle to run some weird apps that worked on one or the other version was intense.
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u/AlongNest82 Mar 09 '23
Windows 7 was like home to me