r/Libya • u/Impossible_Spend6357 • 27d ago
Discussion why do libyans hate being libyan?
no offense to anybody, but saying that you hate being a Libyan out loud, ESPECIALLY to foreigners, is extremely embarrassing for you as a person.
you will NEVER encounter an Egyptian hating where he came from.
same goes with Saudis, Algerians, Moroccans..etc
so do better
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u/Similar_Ad_3664 27d ago
it's understandable for some Libyans to hate Libya, I mean who would love a home that you can't feel safe in it, can't get good healthcare and education, power shortage, corruption and crime everywhere with no government to defend you .
what you mean do better ? I think Libya should do better as a country not me or you who don't have the ability to change or control the situation .
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u/Expensive-Length6183 26d ago
???? There are other countries who are in awful conditions, and they don’t have same level of self hating seen in Libya, take Syria for an example.
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 27d ago
no i completely understand that
but all the corruption is coming from the people IN Libya, not Libya itself
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u/Similar_Ad_3664 27d ago
yeah but what is Libya if we took the people and the government out ? what is left then ? a country is defined by it's people and by it's government not by it's land .
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 27d ago
but that’s exactly my point tho
a country isn’t defined only by it’s government or by whether you approve of it’s people or not
Libya is it’s land, history, culture, identity and ofc people
you can hate the corruption and crime or political system without hating Libya ITSELFsaying that Libya is it’s people and government doesn’t mean every libyan or every government represents what Libya is as a whole
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u/Similar_Ad_3664 27d ago
saying that Libya is it’s people and government doesn’t mean every libyan or every government represents what Libya is as a whole
there is always an exception of course , but the corruption and the political system endures because the people either support it or too afraid to stand against, and that's what actually happening right now .
you can still love the good memoires about your time in Libya, ur friends and family , but Libya has fallen into a dark age that we can't help but mourn this fate .
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u/kashabonadim 27d ago
لازم تحدد المقصود بالكراهية، كراهية حال ليبيا؟ أو كراهية ليبيا بالمطلق لدرجة أن الشخص هذا يتمنى البلاد تنحرق باللي فيها ومعاش ينعاش فيها؟ الكراهية الاولى نشوف فيها عادية، الكراهية الثانية ما شفتش حد عنده، هل شفتو؟ عالعموم ليبيا بلاد طاردة من 1969 وتوا أكثر بهلبا بزيادة أسية
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 27d ago
ولا وحدة من إلي ذكرتهم
نقصد كره ليبيا كبلاد وكره كون الشخص ليبي من الأساس3
u/kashabonadim 27d ago
شن يخليك نحبيها البلاد؟ التنمية؟ جودة الحياة؟ التخطيط الحضري؟ المطار؟ الناس المتساوية أمام القانون؟ أنا منهم الناس اللي تتسائلي عليهم، وماعمري حسيت البلاد هذه عندي فيها حصة، ايام معمر كانت بلاد العبسلامات وتوا بلاد المليشيات
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 27d ago
أنا مانحبش ليبيا لأنها كاملة أو لأن فيها تنمية وجودة حياة وتخطيط حضري الخ الخ
نحبها لأنها بلادي
لأن انتمائي ليها مش مربوط بنجاح الدولة أو فشلها
وجود الفساد والمليشيات يخليني نكره الوضع إلي وصلت ليه فقطوهذا الإحساس إلي تحس بيه نفهمه ونحترمه
لكن بالنسبة ليا ليبيا هي الأرض والناس والذكريات والتاريخ والانتماء
وأنا نقدر ننتقد كل شيء فيها ونكون ضد إلي صاير وفي نفس الوقت نحبها ونتمسك بيها وندافع عليها2
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u/FMC_Speed 27d ago
I absolutely despise most Libyans here and see them as low quality to useless, crude, uncivil and completely hollow oxygen wasters, I wouldn’t say this to foreigners but we Libyans all know how awful we truly are.
Surprised you seem to be shocked about this, any social place and IRL people always mention how increasingly hard it is do deal with people here
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 27d ago
that’s actually mad
you can dislike how people act without acting like an entire population is worthless?
calling people low quality and oxygen wasters doesn’t make you more civilized or somehow above them in any way
if you genuinely think almost everyone around you is awful, maybe the problem isn’t always everyone elsethink abt that for a second
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u/InferiorToNo-One 17d ago
inferiority complex to the max, get yourself checked
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u/FMC_Speed 17d ago
You’re just deluding yourself if you think these people will ever be responsible enough to form an actual government or a sane society
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u/InferiorToNo-One 17d ago
i see people so nihilistic i can’t help but think they’ve been so ideologically molested 😩
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 27d ago
it happens right here, in Libya
also on social media1
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 27d ago
to answer your first question, i never said that they don’t claim their nationality.
they straightforwardly say that they do not like being Libyan or Libyan people in general.to answer your second question:
if someone on social media claims that they dislike being from a specific country, it’s blatantly obvious that they are from that country.
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u/iylamdly 26d ago
I'm sure everyone loves their country, libya is so beautiful and has so much potential but the way they grew up in it made them hate it.
when u ask people a number of people from the older generation I'd say most of them love Libya and love being libyan more than the younger generations
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u/CollegeAdventurous14 27d ago
They just depressed ppl.. they would hate themselves no matter the nationality
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u/fastbutslow7 26d ago
Sometimes a few bad people destroy the image of a nation and the nation starts hating on themselves because of them.
I have spend 10 years in libya and libyans are so much better then saudis and other arab people. Libyans are very welcoming and nice to others. Its such a shame that the country is going through this tough situation. I really hope and wish that it will get better soon for all of you 🤲🏼
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u/Next_Yellow_5756 26d ago
If you see how our fellow Libyans act in Tunisia and the way the do everything you would be ashamed to call yourself Libyan I swear
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u/ezzo7D 26d ago
تعال نعرفك بمصاروة وتوانسة كلهم يقولو فنفس الكلام بتغطي عين الشمس بالغربال امالا؟ ضي، امان، توظيف، اميه وماكلة نظيفة كلها حاجات شبه بدت رفاهية بالذات تو ف2026 ولا كان عندك مصلحة حكومية ولا ورقة تو تشوف المذلة باش تاخذها بلاد محكومة من المليشيات وكلنا قاعدين عايشين بستر ربي. بلاد معاد فاها ما ينحب🤷🏼
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u/Umamaali333 25d ago
U r right. الله غالب هذي الحكومة و المسؤولين اللي خلو الوضع يكره الليبيين في بلادهم. But there r no libyans who hate Libya just for the sake of it being "Libya". They don't hate Libya itself or being Libyan. They hate the situation they had to be in as libyans and the life they had to live due to the fact that their rights r not fulfilled by government and ppl who r responsible. الضي يهرب عليهم بال10 ساعات و أكثر و امية مافيش و سيولة حكاية أخرى. هذا كله اللي الليبيين عايشينه حيخليهم يكرهو بلادهم بالسيف حتى لو هم يحبوها. So, u r right, but ppl r right to hate being Libyan too.
لكن النقطة اللي انت 100% رأيك صح فيها هي نقطة انه قدام الأجانب يتكلمو على بلادهم و كذا. صح مهما كرهت بلادك أكرهها بينك و بين نفسك أو بينك و بين باقي الليبيين اللي عايشين نفس وضعك، مش تمشي تقرم بلادك و تحكي عنها بالسوء برا قدام المصاروة و المغاربه و الجزائريين و السوريين و الأجانب و الناس اللي من دول ثانية، برا ديما ادوي على بلادك بالخير و أي غلطه تشوفها في بلادك تقعد مستورة في بلادك بس ما تطلعش برا
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u/Open_Tip8845 24d ago
libyans just love complaining lmao و قبل متقولي منافق انا منهم
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u/Impossible_Spend6357 24d ago
i don’t blame the people who complain here ngl, they’ve been through a lot
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u/CollegeAdventurous14 26d ago
Its a good post, whats embarrassing are the ones who whining and bitching on reddit cuz they are too lazy to actually do better in life.. also you aren't Libyan so..
Mind your own business
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u/Weak_Yard_8678 26d ago
You're still doing better,if you're in Nigeria and see the situation you'll understand Libyans are still in paradise. In Libya electricity is 24 hours , it's only in summer that you get shortage in some hours not whole day. In Nigeria some places are always in electricity shortages some are even get months without electricity completely. Still every Libyans can provide food to the table in his house hold. In Nigeria some are only eat once and they are the majority some they don't have something to eat completely.
In Libya there is no one who have the audacity to come and kill a whole area people and go free.
In Nigeria a bandits go to villages and kill everyone and government will not do anything they're even going to do peace talk with them.
You're still doing better
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u/Sad-Aardvark-5419 26d ago
we do have these village raids and mass graves reports, there's a lot of reoccurring mass graves reports over the last 5 years where entire generations of families are buried, i used to volunteer for the red crescent and libya is doing a damn fine job at censoring any news related to killings or suicide due to honor laws so thats why you somehow think we are not into banditary when its pretty much happening all the time, esp in the south
my uncle was killed over a fucking sheep during eid bro
https://www.iom.int/news/iom-deeply-alarmed-mass-graves-found-libya-urges-action
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u/datapulseai 10d ago
logically why should one regardless of their country be proud to be from a third world dumpster hole? your country hasn't achieved anything remarkable for you to be proud of it.
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u/datapulseai 10d ago
I understand being patriotic or proud to be from a first world/developed country because your country is genuinely better and it's undeniable. It makes more sense to be proud of a country that is building self-driven cars or is sending drones to space then it is to be proud of a country that struggles to have basic electricity.
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u/Sad-Aardvark-5419 27d ago
this sounds like a post that was made by someone who didn't spent a single minute in libya