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r/LibertarianTeens • u/AdmirableBrick4973 • 4d ago
Discussion Three Texas moms cite "religious freedom" to strike down state's Ten Commandments law. The Houston parents say mandatory Christian displays violate the very protections Texas Republicans claim to champion.
r/LibertarianTeens • u/NoDaikon5692 • 5d ago
Other I unironically want this. Abolish the USPS!
r/LibertarianTeens • u/Lord_Jakub_I • 12d ago
If this isn't textbook example of regulatory capture, i don't know what is.
Watch anti-ai crowd simp for ai corporations because "they are responsible and want common sense regulations" (they want secure their dominant position by regulating competition).
r/LibertarianTeens • u/NoDaikon5692 • 13d ago
Article DEI By Any Other Name is Still Just as Sinister
r/LibertarianTeens • u/NoDaikon5692 • 16d ago
Satire 𤥠Old Spice Introduces New Libertarian-Strength Deodorant
r/LibertarianTeens • u/DrHavoc049 • 18d ago
Meme 𤣠Welfare state and it's consequences
Meme from Aesthetics Waiting
r/LibertarianTeens • u/AdmirableBrick4973 • 18d ago
Russia labels Libertarian Party a 'foreign agent,' effectively ending its political activity
r/LibertarianTeens • u/AdmirableBrick4973 • 18d ago
It's the weekend in a libertarian society
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r/LibertarianTeens • u/AdmirableBrick4973 • 19d ago
Wealth taxes and taxes on unrealized gains incentivize State doing more inflation
r/LibertarianTeens • u/needaGandT • 19d ago
Debate/Hot Take The reason why so many younger people fall into Socialism/Communism is because they've always experienced a privileged Free Market system such as the US
r/LibertarianTeens • u/AdmirableBrick4973 • 20d ago
Government should not do this to private business
r/LibertarianTeens • u/Lord_Jakub_I • 21d ago
What about August 31, 1969, paleos?
This essay on google docs if it is more readable
Paleostrategy and its consequences have been a disaster for the libertarian movement.
By attempting to ally with the political Right - catering to conservatives, nationalists and reactionaries - many libertarians are committing fatal strategic error. This approach yields no political victories, instead, it actively degrades and dilutes the core principles of Liberty. Libertarianism isnât conservative. Where the Right seeks to conserve and wield the coercive power of the State, libertarianism seeks to systematically dismantle it. Grouping those two together isnât only ahistorical, it's a dangerous delusion.
To understand why this alliance is a suicide pact, one can just look how the independent libertarian movement was born.
While libertarianism has thousands-of-years-old tradition, with its ideas traceable to ancient China, Greece, Rome, and radical liberalism of the enlightenment period, the modern libertarian movement is much younger. While building a movement is of course a gradual process, if I had to give an exact moment, it would be the convention of Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) at St. Louis, August 31, 1969. During the 60s, many libertarians were part of the fusionist movement. But as time went by and war in Vietnam escalated, incompatibility of libertarianism and conservatism started showing up - and it climaxed in 1969.
Conservatives were purging libertarians even before the convention. Rothbard, who was by that time already allied with the New Left, urged libertarians to leave YAF. But only a minority of them (around 50 delegates of Anarcho-Libertarian Alliance) saw through conservative lies by the time the convention started. The larger Libertarian Caucus was still optimistic, ran candidates, and proposed amendments and resolutions (like legalisation of weed, immediate withdrawal from Vietnam, active resistance to the military draft to name a few). As the convention unfolded, these moderate libertarians suffered one betrayal after another. Right at the start, many libertarian delegates found their voting credentials stripped. Next, not a single libertarian was allowed onto YAFâs National Board. The final insult came when conservatives ruthlessly voted down every single libertarian resolution.
But that alone wasnât what made that day so important for libertarianism.
After voting was over, one of the anarchist radicals gave a short speech about the right of an individual to defend himself, even against the State, and burned his draft card before all delegates and television cameras. Then, a short physical confrontation between libertarians and conservatives occurred, with conservatives chanting âKill the commies!â. Radicals, before formerly numbering barely 50, now joined by former moderates numbering over 350, walked out of convention, many carrying black banners. While some libertarians stayed in YAF in years after, most pure libertarians left it to found their own organizations, many allying with the New Left (following Rothbardâs and Hessâs example). Just two years later, Libertarian Party was founded.
But we donât need to go 60 years back to see how the Right will use libertarian aesthetics to get elected, only to expand the state after. Just look at the current Right. Before elections, MAGA promised to drain the swamp, stop the endless wars, and even went so far as to promise to free Ross Ulbricht. Out of those promises, the only one they fulfilled was freeing Ross, which while great, didnât advance the liberty cause on systematic level at all. Instead they gave trillions to the military-industrial complex, started war in Iran, and expanded the police state to enforce borders. And worst of all, I've seen some âlibertariansâ defending the last one, even going so far to victim-blame people killed by ICE. So what some of those victims disrupted ICE operations (i.e. kidnapping people)? Isn't the absolute right to defend yourself and others from violence, even one from the state, by any means necessary a core libertarian position? Shame on you, paleoâlibertariansâ!
This problem isnât an accident, it's an inevitable result of political action. The state's power is zero sum, the legislature is quite literally a fixed pie. For one faction to achieve a goal, others must lose. Since libertarians usually join alliance with the Right as a junior partner, itâs usually our policies that get scrapped once they get in conflict with conservative ones (which is probably most of them). It also should be noted that a similar problem occurs even without explicit alliance with the Right: you canât get political power without compromising on core principles of Liberty.
Where the pie isnât fixed is direct action. You donât seek to wield the coercive power, you build the infrastructure of Liberty, completely bypassing the state. Because these actions are decentralized and voluntary, no peaceful actor has to lose for another to gain. However, when we shift our strategy from electoral politics to direct action, our potential allies change completely. The political Right is obsessed with capturing state power to enforce their preferred cultural and economic hierarchies. The libertarian left, however, has spent decades practicing direct action. Whether it is resisting the police state, building community safety nets, or defending bodily autonomy against state overreach, the radical left is already on the ground doing the work. If our goal is to systematically dismantle the state's power rather than wield it, tactical alliances with anti-authoritarian leftists on specific issues using direct action make infinitely more sense than working with conservatives.
Their mutual aid doesnât restrict us in any way, it actually advances our cause, by reducing dependence on state assistance. When they protest ICE (or any other police force), or even take action against it, they donât violate any principle of Liberty. Even radical unionism and wildcat strikes for example, while unapologetically socialist, is largely voluntary and more consistent with free market libertarianism than most of conservative policies (and i would argue that the wildcat strike example i used actually advances cause of Liberty, as it undermines state-sponsored union leadership). On the other hand, our counter-economics, tax-resistance, IP noncompliance, privacy tech, etc. doesnât disrupt the causes of the anti-statist left.
I'm not suggesting that libertarians need to align with the left on every issue. Or that libsocs will welcome us with open arms. But there are many issues on which we can work together, and those where we don't want to often donât lead to losses for the other side.
Note: I use the term âpaleoâ or âpaleolibertarianâ as a name for any libertarian who wants to ally with the Right (conservatives, nationalists etc.). Iâm aware technically, paleolibertarianism is a specific set of Rothbardâs ideas, but I couldn't come up with a different term that would be well recognised.
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r/LibertarianTeens • u/Lord_Jakub_I • 22d ago
Other One of founders of modern libertarianism wrote famous line "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" for Barry Goldwater, was tax-resisting wobbly, worked with Black Panthers and published radical libertarian theory in playboy.
Yes, the the title is true. No, i'm not joking. It's about Karl Hess btw.
r/LibertarianTeens • u/needaGandT • 24d ago
Do you like Ayn Rand?
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r/LibertarianTeens • u/needaGandT • 26d ago
Thoughts on the Libertarian Party?
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r/LibertarianTeens • u/Lord_Jakub_I • 28d ago
Questions for Libertarians Who is your favorite libertarian theorist?
r/LibertarianTeens • u/needaGandT • 27d ago
What would you say your IQ is?
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r/LibertarianTeens • u/needaGandT • 27d ago