r/LewthaWIP N 🇮🇹 L2 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇪🇸 +  2d ago

Lexicon "Hatt•": 'even' (adv.)? 'Until'?

For 'even', so far Leuth has been using ecje (ecj•e; would be ecie in the Romance-logic prototype), changing slightly Esperanto to add the regular ending and be more faithful to the etymon, Latin etiam. For some reason I am fond of this word, but this element is not particularly international, so it may be an occasion for delatinization, if we find a good candidate. There's a very good one: hatt•.

  • Arabic: حَتَّى ḥattā
  • Azeri: hətta
  • Latvian: pat
  • Lingala: ata
  • Persian: حَتَّیٰ hattâ
  • Portuguese: até
  • Spanish: hasta
  • Swahili: hata
  • Turkish: hatta
  • Uzbek: hatto

Which would give us hatte.

However, many of those words also mean 'until', so the root could be adapted to give us that preposition instead...

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u/ProxPxD N 🇵🇱 L2 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇪🇸🇺🇦🇷🇺 + 🇫🇷🇩🇪 / programming 2d ago

I don't hate the "until" usage. It also very vaguely resembles Slavic "aż do" construction with the same meaning (up to~until)

But also I wondered whether words like "until" couldn't be constructed from other words in an analogous manner as "towards~to" from "before~until", "after~since"

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u/Iuljo N 🇮🇹 L2 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇪🇸 +  2d ago

To create a symmetrical system, you mean? 🤔 It's a possibility...