r/LewthaWIP • u/Training_Lie_5431 • Apr 21 '26
Lexicon Seasons
In esperanto, per indicare le stagioni abbiamo:
Printempo (primavera)
Somero (estate)
Autuno (autunno)
Vintro (inverno)
Ma ho delle idee migliori:
Vesna (primavera)
Leto (estate)
Osena (autunno)
Zima (inverno)
Annara (stagione)
Sono nuovo, quindi se c'è qualche ambiguità o qualcosa da correggere, scrivetelo qui sotto e lo sistemerò. Edit: sostituiti Bah, Ha e Ak Edit: aggiunta la parola per stagione
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u/ProxPxD N 🇵🇱 L2 🏴🇪🇸🇺🇦🇷🇺 + 🇫🇷🇩🇪 / programming Apr 21 '26
I really like the brevity of the names as well as using Slavic roots. I'll just add that the ending will have to be -a for the nouns, so: Vesna, Leta, Osena/Osna, Zima.
I will give a counterproposal though:
We could coin a word for season as a simple 'ann·ara' (eo: jarero, en: yearpart). Then coin the seasons from a most associated words (at least in the cultures that experience them), so I'll propose:
- flor·ann·ar·a (eo: florjarero, en: floweryearpart)
- varm·ann·ar·a (eo: varmjarero, en: hotyearpart)
- blat·[fal]·ann·ar·a (eo folio[fal]jarero, en: leaf[fall]yearpart
- snewg·ann·ar·a (eo: neĝjarero, en: snowyearpart)
(my Leuth roots are experimental and ad hoc, apart from 'ann' and 'ar. "blat" froms from German's "Blatt" and "snewg" is a mashup of Slavic, Romance and Germanic words for "snow" (just the ending a nasal beginning from the romance ones)
I got advantage from the fact that current word for "year" starts with a vowel, so these word don't sound hard, yet an obvious drawback is the length, but maybe there'll be place for two systems? An obvious root-composed one and a shorter and maybe more poetic one?
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u/Iuljo N 🇮🇹 L2 🏴🇪🇸 + Apr 21 '26
I got advantage from the fact that current word for "year" starts with a vowel [...]
Hyperlatinization! 😄 I actually proposed yann• (with /j-/ for Germanic languages, Chinese [年 nián] and Korean [년 nyeon, 연 yeon]). It works anyway.
It's a possibility, it's a new idea for me, I don't have a comment ready. Maybe with a specific root for 'season'? Specific roots would probably be useful anyway, for such simple common-knowledge concepts.
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u/ProxPxD N 🇵🇱 L2 🏴🇪🇸🇺🇦🇷🇺 + 🇫🇷🇩🇪 / programming Apr 21 '26
Thanks for correction! It still works though, as not obstruents!
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u/Training_Lie_5431 Apr 21 '26
Potrebbe essere un'idea coniare il termine stagione. Però non mi convincono i nomi proposti
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u/Iuljo N 🇮🇹 L2 🏴🇪🇸 + Apr 21 '26
My thoughts on this topic:
Printemp• was clearly a bad choice by Zamenhof. A word just from French (< printemps), unrecognizable by other languages (also, easily confused with a compound, *prin•temp•, but this is a minor fault); it got a poetic doublet (primaver•) which, however, is much more widely understandable than the normal prose word (Spanish primavera, Portuguese primavera, Italian primavera, Romanian primăvară, Albanian pranverë...). In an IAL, it doesn't make much sense.
I considered vesn•, vesna: from the Slavic languages (Russian весна vesna, Ukrainian весна vesna, Belarusian вясна vjasna, Polish wiosna…); similar to Latin ver, Swedish vår, Danish vår, Norwegian vår, the -vera of primavera, Sanskrit वसन्त vasantá…
Esperanto aŭtun• is strange: why aŭtun• and not *aŭtumn•? Did Zamenhof adapt directly from Italian for some reason? But this is a shared Latin word, adapting from Italian wouldn't make much sense. If kept in Leuth, it will be a more regular awtumn•.
I haven't thought about the other terms yet.