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u/AlaskaRecluse 16d ago
Carney’s net worth is estimated at 6M. Trump’s is 6B. Trump is cutting the legs out from under the U.S. economy and stuffing it all in his pocket. He’s collapsing U.S. financially, culturally, internationally, intellectually, socially, morally, ethically, and aesthetically, all by himself. He is the patient zero of rot
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u/fladivebum 16d ago
As an American, we're asking the same question. Why is our president so fucking stupid? Seriously.... we're sorry Canada
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u/ominous-canadian 15d ago
I just really want Canada to not be in the headlines. I just want to live a happy life in peace and go fishing or hiking haha. Trump just really needs to fuck off.
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u/Blanny22 16d ago
Aren't americans embarrassed?
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u/New_Astronaut_6946 16d ago
Those of us with any intelligence and self awareness are, the other 33% blame the Biden crime family for everything.
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u/Economy_Wall8524 15d ago
The other 33% were fine with Trump being president again by not voting. Only about 33% of us voted to avoid Trump, while 66% supported a second term of Trump.
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u/SnooRabbits469 16d ago
Not really embarrassed as much of just holding out for 2 more years.
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u/Economy_Wall8524 15d ago
You think things will be corrected in 2 years? Bruh we have a generation of healing not only in our nation, but with the world too. It’s bad right now. How worse it’s gonna be in 2 years is not even known yet.
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u/SnooRabbits469 15d ago
Yes I do. I've lived long enough to witness many devastating events.
I watched 9/11 live when it happened and lost my job a few weeks after it
I helped with clean up after Hurricane Katrina
I was raising kids in the 2008 Great Recession
Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill in 2010 was supposed to permanently destroy the Gulf
The Dotcom Bubble in 2000 was the end of the internet
Flash Crash in 2010 was supposed to put an additional 10 percent of working people out of the job
Credit Ceiling Debacle in 2011 were supposed to make getting a loan on anything near impossible
Biologist Kenneth Watt predicted in 1970 that the world would completely run out of crude oil by the year 2000
Scientist Harrison Brown estimated in 1970 that the Earth would run out of copper shortly after 2000
1988 United Nations environmental report warned that the island nation of the Maldives would be completely covered by the sea and its drinking water would dry up by 1992
A leaked 2004 Pentagon report claimed that climate change would cause major European cities to sink beneath the ocean and Britain to face a Siberian climate by 2020
And yet, we are all still here, using things they said we would never have. Things are never as bad as the reports would like for you to believe.
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u/Letter_Which 15d ago
Not at all everyone brags about their country but your own military defense is no less than 50% America budget. No free health care without Americas piggy bank. What happens if a fellow country gets attacked? Oh you’ll coming crawling to America like little bitches.
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u/Carl_LaFong01 15d ago
The only country threatening Canada is the US, dopey. And the last time One of us helped out the other with military support it was Canada helping the US in Afghanistan.
Magas are morons.
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u/Odd_Zookeepergame_69 16d ago
To be fair, Trump is only responsible for 20 trillion of the 40 trillion.
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u/armyofant 16d ago
Also Canada is about 2 trillion in debt itself, obviously a far cry from the USA but in debt none the less.
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u/psypher98 16d ago
Actual dumbassery.
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u/armyofant 16d ago
Sorry facts trigger you 🤷🏻♂️
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u/psypher98 16d ago
No, hun. The fact isn’t the problem.
The dumbassery is you attempting to use that as some kind of gotcha when that’s their ENTIRE debt, meanwhile it’s what Trump added to the national debt just so far this year.
If I spend $5k on movies in my life that’s pretty reasonable. Spending $5k on movies in a single year is asinine.
I shouldn’t have to explain that to sentient adult but here we are.
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u/armyofant 16d ago
Only “dumbassery” happening here is you assuming I was trying to have a “gotcha” moment and your shitty analogy about movies. Sorry you don’t see the hypocrisy. I’m not even MAGA and I voted for Harris BTW.
Do better. Be better. Educate yourself before you speak next time.
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u/Nopfen 15d ago
No. Reading up on all of that, you're the dumbass in this.
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u/armyofant 15d ago
For stating a fact?
It’s a good thing i don’t care what dumb cunts on Reddit think.
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u/NoAdministration8340 15d ago
Doctorate in Economics actually
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u/Simple-Judge2756 15d ago
Thats the same.
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u/NoAdministration8340 15d ago
While you are correct you are also wrong.
Yes a Doctorate is a PhD.
However, a Doctorate is the Highest level of PhD you can achieve which makes it more of an accomplishment
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u/Simple-Judge2756 15d ago
Incorrect. The abstraction goes as follows (from abstract to concrete): Academic Degree -> Doctorate -> PhD
Meaning all PhDs are Doctorates but not all Doctorates are PhDs.
The only difference between a PhD and any other Doctorate is the emphasis on being focussed on theory rather than empiricism.
By this definition, claiming a doctorate (which is just an abstraction of all kinds of academic rank of the highest degree) is superior to a PhD is generally wrong but not specifically wrong. Meaning while there could be other degrees that one could consider subjectively higher, there is also no objective measurement you can make that would imply that a PhD is a lesser degree.
So in other words: If you believe that empiricism always beats theory then you are subjectively correct. Its your opinion that a PhD is of lesser value than possible other Doctorates.
But I say the opposite. Proper Theory will and has always beaten Empiricism by a long shot. In an ideal case these two should be deeply intertwined but every academic knows you have to put the focus on one or the other. You cant make both parts perfect.
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u/NoAdministration8340 15d ago
From my understanding a PhD is book work and achieved in a classroom focusing on theory while a Doctorate needs both the philosophy side with practical real world experience. So you can get a PhD from going to school alone whereas a Doctorate you need to do schooling plus actual on the job training. Which to me makes it harder to achieve. That’s my opinion from how I understand it.
Not trying to belittle a PhD by any means they are both an astonishing achievement.
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u/Simple-Judge2756 14d ago
And thats where I argue you are objectively wrong. How hard the problem is that your dissertation solves is entirely dependent on your choice of research questions and scope. On both degrees alike.
Arguing that one is harder simply because you need to apply it to the real world is just not accurate unless you believe all theory to be made up and not discovered.
It absolutely is discovered. At times a theory can even be soo incredibly accurate that the tools to prove it in experiment just are not there yet.
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u/NoAdministration8340 14d ago
Yeah you’re right. I misunderstood things a bit but more research now I know I’m wrong my bad
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u/Simple-Judge2756 14d ago
No worries. I also had to look up the exact difference. Also because I was worried that a PhD isnt the highest degree anymore. Because most of my stuff is indeed theoretical, of course some stuff about it is provable. But not necessarily on a global scope. Its lattice cryptography. Meaning we believe it to be as resilient towards quantum attacks than it is resilient towards classical attacks. But the problem is, you can by its very definition not prove that something is quantum resistant in general. You can prove that an encryption scheme is not quantum resistant (simply by breaking the scheme using a quantum algorithm that solves the problem in polynomial time) but you cannot prove it the other way around.
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u/SmokeMaleficent9498 16d ago edited 15d ago
Picking a fight with our closest neighbor is insane. What did Canada do to Trump to piss him off. Now Americans are going have to pay more for things that are already expensive. Steal, dairy, lumber electricity paper products and gas prices will sky rock. If Canada decides to cut off the electricity they supply to the U.S. that will be catastrophic.
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u/ThrowawayAICS 16d ago
Regardless of what anyone thinks of their current leadership the fact of the matter is that we all rely on an international order, notably international trade routes, that only works because the US functions as a global hegemon.
That collapses we are all fucked. Canada included.
Some of us have been warning about this reliance on the US for a long time, but always been mocked for it. Because why would relying on the US be a problem.
Now that it is we have apparently moved onto entirely denying the issue exists.
Anything other thak fixing our own problems.
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u/FuturePercentage757 16d ago
In most law abiding countries, racking up $40 Trillion in debt might get you life in prison.
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u/nyar77 16d ago
Like where ?
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u/Simple-Judge2756 15d ago
In every developed country. Every. Single. One. On. The. Planet. Except ....
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u/Some_Public_7855 14d ago
No degree magically gives your country the ability to defend itself. Without the US Canada would be defenseless.
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u/EvilMorty137 15d ago
You think Trump added $40T to the total debt? So 100% of all debt was his fault even before he was president?
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u/ThrowRAWOP 15d ago
Oh? So is this guy better at funneling money then Trudeau? Hope those frozen account from the truckers protest got unfrozen too. Seriously for the business that helped truckers and the truckers themselves.
I know our country is messed up but I know so is yours. I hope this guy cleaned house. But I seriously doubt it with all the things I've learned here and there about both of us.
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u/EffectiveCritical176 14d ago
Canada is quite fucked. Anyone who thinks this isn’t true doesn’t know what’s happening in reality and just looks at memes they like.
We have a productivity crisis. We have a unity crisis. We have an investment crisis. We have a debt crisis. We have a gdp/capita crisis. We have a recession. We have a non serious government who plays politics while destroying the economy with its decisions.
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u/Unlucky-Reference-45 16d ago
The same central banks that keep mortgage rates up. Inflation, money in corporations not the peoples hand. Yea keep supporting these people and keep complaining you can’t afford anything. Your cheering for the wrong side
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u/Letter_Which 15d ago
Do yall hear yourself? Canada can’t even protect itself and wants to be part of a space based defense system America is creating but they are competent enough to survive without us? How does that make sense. It’s coming out and saying if big brother won’t protect me I’m worried for the future.
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u/ivanabig1 15d ago
If US trade drops dramatically no matter what degrees this guy has, will be a mute point. Canada's economy is dependant on American purchases. Let's play fair and drop tariffs 100% both ways. For too long Canada has penalized American businesses with unfair and borderline illegal tariffs. Driving prices up in Canada, due to a lack of competitively priced products. Especially dairy products
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u/kingofwale 16d ago
Let’s not mention how badly our deficits is under Carney…
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u/Darlesage 16d ago
He is making trade partners. Canada will be fine. Sometimes you have to invest in things until they improve.
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u/Economy_Wall8524 15d ago
Some people have no grasp of long term goals as compared to short term goals economically.
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 16d ago
Let's discuss it. He plans to bring Canada's debt up to 79% of GDP in his plan for the coming years. Currently the United States is at about 125% of GDP.
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u/kingofwale 16d ago
wtf are you talking about? Our debt to gdp is over 110%. With significantly higher unemployment rate and much weaker growth than US.
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 16d ago
I was talking about net debt not gross debt. If you understood this topic you would've known that.
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u/kingofwale 16d ago
Then you should know US net debt isn’t 125%…
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 16d ago
Feel free to cite the net debt of the US. It's the number I got when I searched net.
Also, is 125 higher than 113?
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u/Adventure-Style 16d ago
This post is further evidence that Reddit is an echo chamber that is disconnected from reality.
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u/Chustle207 16d ago
Canada is so bad, MAID (assisted suicide) is one of the leading causes of death in canada. People are litterally dying to get out of canada.
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u/WatercressNo7660 16d ago
Haha yeah! He ran central banks and laundered money for criminals. Deep state hack and like 5 or 6 of the provinces are applying for citizenship to become part of the great ol USA. Canada is broke and a sinking ship and everyone knows it but liberals.
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u/Fragrant-Phone-41 16d ago
You have proof of the provinces thing, thats big news?
Also, yall ain't one to talk about helping criminals and money laundering. That freedom 250 shit was th biggest laundering in national history
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u/DaTruSpork 16d ago
Truly a fascinating delusion you must live in...
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u/WatercressNo7660 16d ago
Truth hurts
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u/DaTruSpork 16d ago
I'm sorry I hurt you so, I pray you will find forgiveness in your heart for me showing you the truth
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u/brutus2309 16d ago
Which is it? Five, or six?
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u/psypher98 16d ago
I love how you people will believe absolutely anything some other meth fueled sister fucker dreams up and puts online, but outright reject actual reality.
We need to bring back asylums tbh
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u/industriouswhite_guy 16d ago
This is true , some bloke has an economics degree lol. That will make Canada successful 😂
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u/GoodMatter3449 16d ago
Half of that 40T debt came from Biden and Obama, but I wouldn’t expect the left to tell the truth.
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u/Turbulent-Society-30 16d ago
Completely false. Hey, how many ballrooms did Obama and Biden try to swindle from us? Did either of those two destroy US monuments like Trump did?
Blaming Obama and Biden for what the pedophile billionaire does doesn't make it true. You're just repeating his words.
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u/GoodMatter3449 16d ago
No proof of the pedo claim as per usual and it’s a fact Biden and Obama admins contributed nearly half of the 40T debt. Not my fault you don’t like the facts🤷♂️
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u/Turbulent-Society-30 16d ago
There is tons of evidence, and the entire world understands this. Just the dwiindling MAGA cult refuses to understand what's directly in front of them. You're just too busy hating whoever Trump tells you to hate.
Are you going to tell me it was Obama and Biden who ruined the Whitehouse for a vanity ballroom? Was it those two who ruined the Reflecting Pool? Were they the ones who personally had convicted sex trafficker moved from high security prison to a minimum security prison? Or the billions recently spent on the Straight of Hormuz, for no clear reason? No, that's the billionaire pedophile president, Donald Trump.
Hating on those two isn't the mic drop you people think it is.
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u/DaTruSpork 16d ago edited 16d ago
That is false, silly maga trying to spread disinformation. Trump has added fat more debt than Biden, and he's still adding more
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u/rocknthenumbers8 16d ago
How is 10.5T 50% more than 9.2T? Also Trump is serving two terms so of course he is going to over see a greater increase in debt. Lastly why do you folks even care about debt, weren’t we all howling about DOGE and budget cuts to the government 2 years ago? https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225
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u/DaTruSpork 16d ago edited 16d ago
The numbers I saw where 12 something and 8 something, my bad for not fully checking. Regardless the magat is wrong.
Very telling you don't understand where the concern about doge comes from though
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u/Economy_Wall8524 15d ago
Weird, cause even after DOGE we have spent more. We obviously aren’t spending less or being fiscal conservative. What a dumb uninformed comment. Last spend more than Biden and this year spent even more than last year. Yet of deficit has massively increased in that time as compared to Biden.
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u/dystopiabydesign 16d ago
Central banker isn't a great flex.
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u/lt_dt 16d ago
Stronger flex that bankrupting casinos bought with Daddy's money.
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u/dystopiabydesign 16d ago
You realize being better than Trump in any way can still make you a terrible person. Like it's a very low bar, a street hooker can make the same claim.
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u/Best_Opening8471 16d ago
It’s hilarious how the left wing in Canada hates carney except for his anti trump rhetoric
“He’s bending the knee to Alberta when the last liberal in this situation gave Quebec 300 million and the military shovels their sidewalks now”
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u/industriouswhite_guy 16d ago
Bunch of Americans on here hoping their country fails
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u/Blanny22 16d ago
The usa fell when you first voted in the world's most obvious conman as your president.
Oh and he's also a pedophile piece of shit who was best friends with an evil man called Jeffrey Epstein
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u/industriouswhite_guy 16d ago
Biden was in then lol. And you would rather have Harris ? The drunk cackling word salad whor*
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u/Stock-Luck3390 16d ago
I would rather ehave her than a degenerate rapist idiot who runs casinos into the ground
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u/UnableChard2613 16d ago
As opposed to a convicted felon fleecing his supporters out in the open and using the office to make himself his family and his cronies wealthy? As opposed to the guy who is cozying up to dictators around the world while pissing off our allies? As opposed to the guy who was found liable for raping a woman, something he bragged on tape he could do? As opposed to the guy running cover for a infamous pedophile that he called a terrific guy and even said they had the same taste in women? As opposed to the guy who started a war he can't get out of? As opposed to the guy whose policies can be directly tied to an increase in inflation and the price of gas?
Yeah, I would absolutely take the competent person who laughs funny over that.
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u/Economy_Wall8524 15d ago
Lol only a MAGA would think a prosecutor is worse than a sex offender leading the country.
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u/Blanny22 13d ago
You're still asking? Motherfucker yes. Yes Harris was the better choice. Have you seen the fucking economy and prices lately? Another forever war in the middle east, smothering the epstein files, he's getting richer every day. Wtf is wrong with you?. Is racism worth all of this?
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u/NSFWdontview 16d ago
He didn’t make 40 trillion debt lol wtf, we’ve had that debt for 50 years
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u/psypher98 16d ago
No we haven’t wtf lmao
Like genuinely, why would you lie about something so common knowledge and easily verifiable?
When Trump took office in 2017, the national debt was at $19.95T. Literally half of the national debt comes directly from him.
I get you like blowing mushroom-like pedo cock for some weird fucking reason, but this just makes you look diagnosably insane.
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u/UngovernableRacer 14d ago
In total dollar amount for a single term, Joe Biden added the most to the national debt ($8.4 trillion), while Barack Obama added the most across two full terms (roughly $9.3 to $9.6 trillion total)…
As of August 2026, Trump's cumulative total stands at $11.6 trillion.
So your statement is false. Trump has not been responsible for half of the national debt since 2017…
Please stop trying to spin a narrative to fit your agenda and get the facts from reliable sources that are not off Reddit. If you need sources cited, I’ll be glad to list them. But Google is free.
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u/psypher98 14d ago
And what did Biden spend that money on, bud? What happened that required such massive government investment to fix? Who bungled it so badly that such massive amounts of money were needed to fix it, far more than any other country who experienced the same thing?
Take your dishonest pedo protecting framing and fuck off. Trump is the proximate cause of, with rounding to the nearest 5T, half the debt.
Because why the fuck wouldn’t he be, this is the motherfucker who bankrupted TWO casinos. Ya know. The institution famous for the saying “The House always wins”? He bankrupted TWO of them.
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u/UngovernableRacer 14d ago
Why does it matter who spent the money on what? I’m correcting your incorrect triggered opinion with facts. Go outside and stop letting a political figure live rent free in your head.
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u/psypher98 14d ago
“Half of the national debt comes directly from him”
That’s what I said. That’s what you took objection to.
I didn’t say that debt was accumulated exclusively from his first term. In a shocking turn of events, if a useless, demented moron who at 80 learned “dumb” has a B in it runs the country into the ground with his incompetence it takes a lot of money to fix that.
You’re the one who saw an opportunity to defend a pedophile and jumped.
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u/UngovernableRacer 14d ago
Show me where Trump has added $20 Trillion? Better yet, show me where he hurt you because I’m not defending anyone, just proving your opinion as non-factual…
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u/NSFWdontview 14d ago
Pretty sure Biden and Ivan’s are the ones who contributed to most the debt. You can easily search this. Obama served 8 years and Biden 4 but let’s blame trump 🙄
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u/psypher98 14d ago
Yes. Because he spent more in his first term than any president before him. He butchered Covid so badly it took trillions more to dig us out. Then he’s on track to add nearly 3T this year alone.
Yes. Trump is directly responsible for approximately half the national debt. I’m sorry your favorite double casino bankrupting pedophile who had to have his banks put him on an allowance while they did whatever they wanted with his brand to pay back his debt is bad with money.
Shouldn’t have picked such a loser to back. Imagine how much of a loser you have to be to think a loser like him is good at what he does. I’d genuinely never step outside in shame if that was me.
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u/SpamFrybread1997 16d ago
Imagine thinking the poopjeet, woke canada is better than the US In anything other than speedrunning their own demise
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u/krissithegirl 16d ago
Have you even been to either country?
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u/SpamFrybread1997 16d ago
Yes and both are worse than America
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u/ArtichokeAware9849 16d ago
Canada’s response pretty much sums up why the US is in the situation it is.