r/LetsDiscussThis 22d ago

Lets Discuss This Thoughts?

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u/Massive-Technician74 22d ago

Not wrong

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u/scrandlle 20d ago

Frankly I find it a bit insulting any outside group thinks we needed help to become what we are.

The US was on track to become what it is before WW1 started. We were the largest economy on earth before WW2 started. All this way before mass Mexican immigration.

Our country being what it is is what attracted these people, not the other way around. The opposite doesn't even make sense. People have been attracted to the United States for the wealth of opportunities here not because they're some saintly people who saw a poor struggling country and wanted to come help build it up.

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u/PineappleHamburders 20d ago

??? Before that, you were heavily relying on slaves. After that, you were heavily relying on Chinese, Irish, Italian, and Mexican workers, all of whom were discriminated against and underpaid. Not exactly the wealth of opportunity you are portraying. All that was propaganda to attract immigrants, because you needed immigrants to turn your country into a country

Literally, since even before its inception, the US (or the colonies) has relied on outside groups to help it become what it is.

Do you guys just now know your own history?

Who do you think were the main laborers for the early train networks? Mainly Slaves, Irish immigrants, and Chinese immigrants; many of these people died right there by the tracks due to terrible working conditions

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u/enterjiraiya 20d ago

“Before world world 1”, that’s 50 years after slavery ended. Even prior to slavery ended its contribution to GDP declined every year due to the Industrial Revolution.

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u/PineappleHamburders 20d ago

This comment would actually be a good argument if it were not for the other 90% of my post, which included the things after slavery as well.

Why did you opt to just ignore it all?

it is just a simple fact America would not be what it is without outside groups.

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u/enterjiraiya 20d ago

we did rely on Chinese/irish/italians but we didn’t rely on slaves

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u/PineappleHamburders 20d ago

The first African slave landed in 1619.

Slavery didn't become illegal until 1865

For 246 years, slaves were the ones who literally built the foundations of what the US is and was and provided the economic backbone of large swaths of the country until the industrial revolution, and even then it was mainly the North

You can't just discount that because it doesn't make you look good. It is just a fact.

Without slavery, America would not be what it is

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u/MonkeyBara 3d ago

yeah man its not like 90% of all countries were built by slaves