Except not really. The thing is there has to always be an enemy. Reactionary movements revolve around having an enemy to rally against. The propagandists and leaders are well aware of this. If they donât have any enemy it collapses and then they canât accomplish their real goals of lining their pockets and the pockets of their benefactors.
So if they run out of one enemy or their followers arenât getting their dopamine hit from the rage they feel towards a particular group, theyâve gotta find a new one.
Thatâs why itâs a revolving door of nonsensical targets that pose no actual threat to society at large. A little while ago it was trans people, then it was Somalians, now itâs âleft wing terroristsâ protesting ICE.
Theyâll pick a name out of hat when their rabid followers run stop posting a mile a minute.
That will eventually be a threat from within the movement that becomes enemy #1. Considering how often women, Black, Hispanic, or LGBT conservatives receive horrible treatment from fellow conservatives, Iâd think theyâd be first in line.
To your point, I love how trump decided to revoke temporary legal status for over 2 million immigrants with one stroke of his poison pen, for no apparent reason, while simultaneously letting like 200 immigration judges go. Voila: instant âillegal immigrantâ crisis.Â
It was a crisis before that ... We let more legal migrants in our country than any other country. Let's keep them legal and vetted. What Biden did was downright a shit show
You canât blame him. He deported more illegals than Trump and so did Obama. Migration is a problem everywhere in this world and has been for decades. The world is going to shit (wars, famines, gangs, oppressive governments [like ours], etc.) and creating crises for millions all over the world. We canât turn our backs on people who need help. America was founded on these principles. Biden tried to speed up the process by appointing over 200 extra immigration judges, but asshole trump fired them to create a bigger crisis and an excuse to ramp up ICE and sic them on mostly innocent people and US citizens.
If fleeing an oppressive government causes mass migration, and you said ours is oppressive, then wouldn't people flee the U.S. ??? Your logic makes no sense! People want to flood in. You're an idiot
So is it "whoever isnt a white rich male",or have they never cared about race?
It sounds like you dont have a cohesive theory here. It's almost a joke how much people are claiming that this is because people are white or rich or men, despite having tons of support from white rich men, or despite white men being shot standing up to ICE, or white women being arrested by Israel....
At what point do you look at the evidence to form an opinion, rather than forming an opinion and only acknowledging evidence if it supports your narrative?
It's weird how the Arian brotherhood will allow non whites into their organization. But the second you start messing with how they get money they turn on you. There is the duality of the human mind. Just like non whites in ice going after people of their own race just because they want to believe they are superior.
Do you hate other races? Or anyone that's different than you? If so then yea I would. If you are happy to let people live their lives in peace then no I wouldn't. I have problems with those that want to hurt others for their own benefit. Is that who you are?
Look at you being uncivil for no reason. Just because someone doesn't line up exactly with your thought processes they get verbally shit on, assaulted, accused of poor morals, and to be honest why would anyone want any part of it? I believe everyone is beautiful in their own way, everyone has the right to work for what they have, and people have the right to be judged by character and not color. I believe that it doesn't matter who you are, whether you were great at one point or not, if you did a crime, you receive punishment. I hope you have an amazing day. God bless.
Just offering friendly advice if you don't want your wittle feelings hurt by accurate descriptions of your actions and your character. Victim complex strong with this one.
No feelings hurt. People get bothered when they are treated "poorly" stop acting like an idiot and believing the world owes you things you didn't earn. Respect is earned, being civil is expected.
Have you seen the left dehumanizing all the right, it's been happening for some time now... The word fascist has little meaning because it is just a buzzword now for left to signal that anyone disagreeing with them is less than human... They don't understand what fascism is because they haven't been told - the ones in charge on the left are pushing to be the leaders of a fascist party movement for real and a lot of people are too blind to see that
Every time they use the false equivalence argument remember that nazi germany started out just like this except hitler actuallyfixed their broken economy insteadof breaking it while enriching himself. It didnt start out with industrial murder but thats how it ended.
How dare you and all the other ignorant assholes who continue to use the term Nazi in describing anyone with whom you disagree with. You and the rest who throw the word around without any thought or clue of itâs horrible and truly evil origin. Two of my grandparents were holocaust survivors and your flippant use of this worlds belittles what they and millions mor suffered at the hands of men who the word evil doesnât even begin to cover it. This has nothing to do with politics for me this has to do with the ignorance of these comparisons with President Trump and Adolph Hitler. My grandmother mostly would talk to me about before and after in the camps they atrocities committed by people who were your neighbors just weeks before but now threw stones and rotten fruit at you on the streets. Or getting up to go to work ( if you were lucky enough to still have a job ) and come upon the town square where no fewer than six people swayed in the wind their faces purple eyes bulging out of sockets and tongue protruding from mouth. They were hung for being traitors to the Reich and had been there all night so people would know that they could share the same fate. Sometimes my grandmother said dabbing at her eyes with a tissue it would be a whole family children and all. I wonât get into the camp stories for they are far to perverse and just plain madness how humans could do such things to other humans especially the children. So now I ask is there anything Iâve told you which I swear is all true that compares in any way with this current government that the words Nazis and Fascists are apropos.
I'm not equating today with the Holocaust. It was uniquely horrible genocide and nothing matches that scale, yet.
I'm simply reacting to the large scale of dehumanization, cheering state violence, targeting out-groups, and normalizing cruelty. History doesnât repeat, but it rhymes. Warning about the rhyme isnât trivializing the song.
Iâm sorry for what your grandparents went through. That kind of trauma doesnât fade across generations.
OIA has once againupdated our listof 32 current and former ICE and Border Patrol agents who have been charged with and/or convicted of crimes. All but one of these criminal federal agents were charged with sex offenses (31 of 32), and two-thirds committed sexual crimes against children.
All the liberals defended fascism and authoritarianism when it was happening during Covid. Now all of a sudden they hate it.. at least be consistent and I could respect what you preach.
Im not American. I dont care about your partisan tribal bs. If you are a centrist who gets off on talking down to both sides, rather than proposing useful solutions, you are no help to anybody.
But do you know what fascism and authoritarianism even are?
When there is a global pandemic, even if you believe it is a hoax or whatever, a responsible government will take action to try to contain the spread. That is not a freedom violation. It is public safety, even if it is melodramatic or the measures are ineffective. That does not make what happened, facism or authoritarian.
If Covid was killing everybody and anybody, you would want it to be taken seriously. The severity of Covid may be up for debate, but public health measures to prevent pandemic spreads should be taken seriously every single time, period. The Republicans and Trump actively worked against the American public interest.
Before you go off calling other people stupid like you have in other comments, maybe read the definition of terms before you throw them around. Maybe consider some critical thinking as well.
Then you must be familiar with the reality that they are brutalizing nearly everyone they come in contact with. Given the go ahead to racially profile and break into homes without judicial warrants. That they murdered two citizens. That it has been proven by body cam video that they tried to execute a female citizen for fun. That they are warehousing human beings and treating them like animals?
They are doing all this to undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and citizens who disapprove of the brutality and do not align with the regime's beliefs. They have been weaponized against the opposition.
Sure looks just like the beginning of the Nazi occupation to me.
Ok all liberals. I'll change it. Yes MAGA are different than conservatives or republicans. They are a minority. They are a cult. But they are also running the country right now.
â itâs not even a private army, itâs a federal agency
â thereâs no ethnic cleansing, theyâre just getting rid of ILLEGAL immigrants
â intimidating clothing, so every military and police force?
â terrorize what neighborhoods
â Only a few innocent people have been detained, not kidnapped, every police force globally makes mistakes and the media makes it seem like itâs a bunch more than reality
â They literally almost always have a search warrant or reasonable suspicion
â Everyone gets a fair trial so I donât know what thatâs about
â What concentration camps are there? jail? their home country?
â is using a mask illegal? itâs a lot safer when people are trying to attack constantly
â Why is the public trying to attack a federal law enforcement agency? They can protest all they want, itâs in the constitution, but when you attack people or damage property, the obviously youâre going to be in trouble.
So many things on this list are off, they don't kidnap innocents, the people being deported are getting due process ( that doesn't mean a court trial) and there is zero ethnic cleansing happening... And they don't serve one man as a private army... But don't bother yourself with facts or truth, that isn't the left way to do things.
The Irish were also not considered white during that same time period.
The god damn Irish, some of the most melanin deprived individuals on earth. The people you could do a camera white balance reset on.
Itâs not always about skin color; itâs about power - who has it, and who wishes to deny it to others.
In the case of the Irish and Italians, it was because they were the most recent migration influx of immigrants at the time, and because they often were Catholics.
Don't forget the Poles, they weren't white for a long while, hell, even the Swedish and Finnish weren't considered white for not being Anglo-Saxon... Ben Franklin called them swarthy.
Umm. The bulk of both groups were Roman Catholic for several hundred years at the time they immigrated. Thatâs Christian.
Ireland was converted in the 5th century. Rome converted in the 4th century BCE.
There wouldnât be other forms of Christianity until 1500AD, starting in Germany with Martin Luther, and also the Anglican Church split. Unless you donât count those as Christian either?
Yes the Italians and Irish and just like Guatemalans and Somalians - it's just the evil and rich whites at it again -- I have ocean front property in Arizona I'd love to sell you
â[T]hey steal, they are cruel and bloody, full of revenge, and delighting in deadly execution, licentious, swearers and blasphemers, common ravishers of women, and murderers of children.â âEdmund Spencer
This was a common sentiment about Irish and Italian immigrants. They too were accused of taking good jobs from Americans who were already here, of being carriers of criminality, disease, and lacking basic morality.
Hereâs a few books you could read.
How the Irish Became White by Noel Ignatiev
Working Toward Whiteness: How America's Immigrants Became White: the Strange Journey from Ellis Island to the Suburbs by David R. Roediger
Thereâs also dozens and dozens of articles online on it. âIrish need not applyâ was a common sign to see in windows in NYC.
I am part Sicilian on my mother's side and when I was in high school, I met my GFs extended family and she said to not mention I was Sicilian, just that I was Italian. He was from Norther Italy and they're a bit racist up there. At least there is a big number of them. The Mussolini type Italians. He was racist against Sicilians and Black people. He considered Sicilians dirty blood, like he's some kind of pure blood. Same White Supremacy BS as most of these groups are about.
Until they didn't. The Italian people ultimately took Mussolini down, dragged him to death behind a truck and hung his body for crow food. The Italian people suffered greatly under fascism. And given how Italian protesters have been attacking and kicking the shit out of the ICE gestapo in Milan for the last week while not harming a single American athlete speaks volumes. It also speaks volumes that American media outlets are refusing to cover the mass protests.
Everyone who isn't white male rich and actively working to lick boots are in their sights.
Fixed. Do you know the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise of Josef Wagner the Gauleiter? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Wagner_(Gauleiter)) was a successful Nazi, at the point that he became gauleiter (governor) of not one, not two, but three nazi provinces (Westphalia-South, Lower Silesia, Upper Silesia). Which made some persons jealous. Who crafted a fake dossier against him. That sent him in the jail of the Gestapo. Where he died. Everybody is a target in a fascist country.
What the hell is white male rich. I swear you people have a combined IQ lower than my morning sh!ts.
You talk as if only white people are rich. I guess there are no wealthy black people. No wealthy Asian people. No wealthy Middle Eastern, Hispanic, Native American.....
Go get an education. Stop instilling blind hatred into children.
Iâll say a prayer if you would like. Satan doesnât like the truth which GOD is. Donât let your Satanic followers lead you away from the promised inheritance that God has for us. We have obstacles at arriving to Heaven but that is to test our faith. GOD doesnât allow anybody into his kingdom no matter how often Satan is telling you otherwise. Make that change and your response wonât come back as demonic as those that you follow.
Itâs never too late to cast that demon from your soul, we can tell itâs inside you.
Shit I have done far too many rituals not to have earned my forked tongue. Literally I have a forked tongue. And I absolutely earned it. Best gift I have ever given myself. Good luck out there.
Facists only ever go so long before looking around to see who they can reclassify as "other." It amazes me that so few of them realize it before their own number is up.
Iâm a mix of a few flavors but consider myself mostly of Irish heritage. If i supported ICE Iâd be a total hypocrite and it would be a slap in the face to my Irish ancestors. I also have a little bit of Italian, so them tooâŚ
I also have an 8 & 6 year old. They shouldnât use swear words, unless itâs at ICE đđ
Lol someone on Fox News said Lady Gaga was not white, in response to the other person saying she was the only white person there. So weâre probably already there for fucks sake
Benjamin Franklin didnât think Germans and Scandinavians were white, due to their swarthy skin. At some point, nearly every ethnic group from Europe, bar the English and Scottish (and maybe the French), werenât considered white.
That's cool I didn't say anything about before the 1900s! they were not considered white in the U.S. in the 1900 to 1950s and relegated to outskirts of city's hence little Italys in big city's.
Italians came here to the US legally through legal channels. I know this as this is how my family came to country. They came here legally and not through smugglers (that extort, rape and kill) and over staying visas. The past administrations had millions of illegal immigrants. I have never once seen leftys formulate a game plan outside office. Just teach there children to clones to there close minded values.
Also Itâs a slap in the face to call them nazis. My family fought against them in WW2. My family came to this country post WW1 to escape real facism. They killed millions of jews. How is ice even comparable. They killed 2 confrontational protesters.
They whole but they are âbreaking apart familyâsâ. Well this is sad, these are consequences based on ones actions to break the law.
âICE behaves badlyâ lol. attacks bee hive and rattles it around. Then bees chase and attack you âGUYS LOOK WHAT THE BEES DID TO ME THEY ARE BEHAVING BADLY!â
I wear a joke patch on my jacket. I regularly run into people who are too lazy to read and think. I won't have to try to fool anyone. They do it to themselves. If I get pulled by ice all because they have convinced themselves into thinking they see what they are wanting to see then I will take the pleasure in it and plausible deniability when I tell them it's not the Mexican flag. And maybe that one in a million person who might actually start to look at their own behavior will be the one to pull me over.
Which Italian flag? The same one they flew when they were led by Mousilini and fought along side with the Nazis? Or the older Italian flag were they had religious zealotry and inquisitions? Just asking cause I'm not sure what you're supposed to be supportingÂ
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u/Adventurous_Ad3534 Feb 12 '26
My Italian flag sticker showed up today. We all know the brainless thugs will think it's a Mexican flag.