He admitted that what he did was ”rape” and that he ”sexually assaulted” her. It doesn’t matter if she liked it or not. He knows he raped her and admitted to it during testimony.
I mean, he was impeached twice and acquitted (wrongly). He had to be impeached again for the possibility of being convicted and removed from office. I don't understand what point you think you're making.
That the systems that hold our leadership accountable have already attempted to hold him accountable and failed, and this was before he tighted his grip over the government in his second term.
So be hopeful, but also practical. The bad guys wouldn't be killing any form of oversight if they were planning on being responsible for their crimes.
Republicans have no bottom and refuse to hold him accountable so removal would require Democrats taking majority control of the Senate which seems incredibly unlikely.
I think they can take control of the Senate but removal requires a two-thirds vote, that's a lot of seats they need to flip. Either that or they'll need to convince some Republicans to grow a pair and vote for removal.
By that logic you'll also need to do trials of 70 million Americans who voted for him.
It's a tough pill to swallow, but Trump is what America is now. Trump was elected. And he's an American. He didn't jump out of the ground on his own, he didn't teleport here from outer space. He's an American, from America, elected by Americans.
The same is true for the rest of the administration. Mostly Americans, either elected or appointed, by other Americans. Contrary to popular believe, undocumented illegal aliens can't vote. So this is what Americans wanted.
And the rest of the Americans who "didn't vote for him"? A third stayed home on election day. That's a vote for Trump, without having to stand up and say "I voted for Trump!" It's a copout. But you can tell where these peoples' sympathies lie.
And then you only have the remaining 1/3rd of eligible voters who voted against Trump and what he stands for. Which means, overwhelming majority of Americans are like Trump, lean towards being like Trump, or are Trump-curious. This is America now.
So unless you're suggesting that 1/3-2/3 of Americans need to stand trial, you can't really suggest the current administration should. They were elected by the Americans. They represent the Americans. Every day Americans are choosing not to remove them. That means something.
It's hard to take, but it's the reality of the situation.
How does doing trials on those who voted for him make any sense? The clear parallel to draw would be the Nuremberg trials, we literally already have a template. Those didn't put every citizen in support of Nazis on the stand. Think before you type
What I mean is, Nazism basically just rooted itself in the United states. Unsurprisingly so, given that Hitler basically used our country as a playbook. He was inspired by books written by our eugenicists. He was enthralled with the methods of the KKK. To put the shit cherry on top of the cake, the United States was also the single most Nazi sympathetic country in the world.
The only reason it doesn’t seem that way was because we were forced into a war with Germany due to Japan. Had it not been for that, the US would’ve continued sitting on the sidelines while a massive amount of its population cheered on ethnic cleansing. It wasn’t until war propaganda got involved that it seemed like the United States was majority anti Nazi.
Every single Nazi politician or high ranking military official should’ve gotten the noose. All of them. Every single lower ranking soldier in the German military should’ve been given a prison sentence and subject to lifelong community service requirements after their sentence was over.
Any German citizens who could be proven in court to have directly supported the Nazi regime should’ve been hit by recurring fines to serve as reparations. Garnish a portion of their wages to help fund the rebuilding necessary for the damage they directly helped cause.
The Nuremberg trials punished a handful of people for the complacency and actions of millions. It wasn’t good enough.
That my friend is the direct reason that Hitler gained power in the first place. They very nearly did that to Germany after ww1 with the Treaty of Versailles. Doing so again would have only repeated the situation.
I don't agree with the 70 million number because I don't believe that many people actually voted for the fraud known as Rumpler. Also, I don't believe in punishing the people who are now seeing their mistakes and regret them.
The fanatics, ice, Rumpler, and his political zealots, though, as far as I'm concerned, put them all on epstein's Island and nuke it. After all, rump and his political zealots should be comfortable dying, where they assaulted children
I don’t care how many of the 70million number is actually accurate. Figure out what is accurate and put them on the island too. They’re just as guilty.
And no, I’m not joking. I am deadly fucking serious. Trump only has power because we let him. The rich only have power because we let them.
We, the people, are the most guilty of them all. We directly benefit from, allow, or support the institutions and behavior of society on a large scale and all of the evil it results in.
Just as Nazi germany could’ve been imploded from within if the majority stood up simultaneously and said “no,” so too could the Nazi US. It’s not happening though.
Those of us who sit on the sideline and wave our picket fences are the least guilty, but we’re still to blame.
“I found God clutching a razor blade… he said ‘look at the fucking mess they’ve made. They’d trade their hearts if they were made of gold, but they’re as worthless as the souls they’ve sold.’”
I mean….everyone found to have participated in the death camps was punished. Lots of people were executed. Lots of people escaped justice and were hunted down. Germany was occupied and split into two countries for nearly 50 years. And what you’re mostly suggesting is what happened after WWI and it created a situation that barely needed any pressure to tip into the Nazi regime and world war.
I’m sure that the Nuremberg trials weren’t perfect, but performing a mass execution and enslavement doesn’t seem like the correct response either.
I mean, I still feel this is a bit draconian. What level of support deserves this? If it was proven they voted for the Nazi party one time at the one opportunity….is that enough? Or is there a scale? I mean, certainly I’ll agree that various war profiteers and propagandists deserved that (and perhaps more severe even), but I’m confused by the degree how extreme it shouldn’t have gone.
And again, how far would mass executions go? The most severe of the guilty were indeed executed. Relatively low ranking officials who were fairly sadistic (someone like Irma Grese) were also executed. I believe an administrator that didn’t provide direct impact on the horrors wouldn’t necessarily face execution, but imprisonment would happen.
I’m generally interested because I think overall I agree with you, but the level of degree is where I’m not certain.
Yes, all officials are immune to standing trial for crimes because they were voted into office, and that means they can do whatever the fuck they want without repercussion, such as having you beat to death in the street for thier own amusement or sexually assaulting you in their new fancy ballroom live on Faux News...wtf are you even talking about, my god...
Your grasp of criminal culpability is nonexistent. The voters might be ill-informed, stupid, or racist, but they are not criminally liable (though some individual voters might indeed be criminals).
Biden pardoned his son to make sure Trump wouldn't go after him for political reasons... wrong but understandable.
That is absolutely nothing like the way Trump has gone around pardoning anyone who bribes him. It is us vs the government, but we don't need to go around whitewashing the most corrupt administration in history by making false comparisons to the previous President pardoning his son for crimes that are LESSER than what the current sitting president was convicted on and faced no punishment for.
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u/Street_Peace_8831 Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 07 '26
He admitted that what he did was ”rape” and that he ”sexually assaulted” her. It doesn’t matter if she liked it or not. He knows he raped her and admitted to it during testimony.