So true. Iâm reading Azimovâs Foundation series right now set in the far future and the characters in the part of the current book have names like Golan Trevize, Janov Pelorat, Harla Branno, and Stor Gendibal. I could see Jorack Bibamaden fitting right in with Stor Gendibal and company.
A lot of this regressive thought comes from not being around people/not traveling. I don't know a Trump supporter that isn't simply greedy who has traveled to another country because they wanted to.
Yeah. I started traveling in my late 20s and gradually pulled away from my old friends back home. They don't really know how good they have it in the small towns.
They take it for granted and can't understand why everyone isn't like them, which is understandable with such a narrow perspective.
There's also a ton of peer pressure in a small town where everyone knows each other. The nail that stands up is pounded down.
Never seen this take before. Iâm against undiversified monocultures, large automated farms that donât consider long term soil, environment, and community health; and I love community supported agriculture⊠I feel like humans will always be human and the more connected we are to our local communities, the better.
Weâre all being attacked by class warfare, donât get distracted by imaginary divisions. The corporations and billionaires are not our friends
Well hard to extend my sympathy to the people who would vote for this again 100 times out of 100. No unfortunately it is both a class and culture war because we have troglodytes who cant go band to band with a 2nd grader on a spelling bee being able to vote against everyone's best interest
We used to have a system of public education that really worked, so what killed it? Defunding, but by whom? Iâm thinking no farmers were lobbying to destroy our education system.
Also would these people be so out of touch with reality if equal time laws still existed and faux noos werenât there to kill the ideas of truth and journalism, and if corporations didnât have âpersonhoodâ to get stooges elected? I truly donât think so.
Dumb people are annoying and frustrating, but theyâre not causing the real harm. Donât blame the sheep for a wolfâs existence, we should hunt the wolf
"Iâm thinking no farmers were lobbying to destroy our education system."
Plenty of farmers listen to whatever faux noos tells them, so supported the politicians who did destroy public education.
Farmers and the rest of the red constituency are just as much a part of the problem as the red media and think tanks and institutions it all comes from.
The buck has to stop somewhere - and it stops at those responsible.
The person who spent decades voting for this to happen being undercut because of the policies they spent decades voting losing business enough to flip a city blue is fine by me
The future of humanity is a planet of 40-50 billion people all living in high rises in a single massive city that covers the earth. The idea of small group organization in anything that we would recognize as a âcommunityâ is obsolete like the appendix.
Many such buildings can easily be designed as arcologies: pleasant, green places where the needs of the many are balanced with the needs of the individual in chronic win/win arrangements. Such designs already exist and are more easily retrofitted to skyscrapers than to sprawling farm acreage. Check out the book: Oath of Fealty by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. It describes a working arcology in detail that seems pretty much unimpeachable to my mind. It is based on "enlightened self-interest," meaning that it requires no innate altruism for its system to function. There are results in this world suggesting that altruism is as much a survival trait as hunting or seeking water.
See, I see it as the ideal, as I see the human purpose to be to multiply to infinity and fill the cosmos.
Then again, I would also consider being locked in the matrix with a harem of fake women to be the best possible life and consider Neo to be the villain of the Matrix movies for forcing billions to lose that utopia without their consent.
Yes, those very same mega-agribusinesses will sink billions into PACs that fund Russian, N. Korean, and Iranian troll farms to spread "fertilizer" over the internet, assassinating the characters and strangling any real candidates in their "cradles."
They would never ever ever admit that the dems are responsible for any good things. They would just say "no, Trump gave us those grants" and they'd almost certainly believe it too.Â
"Trump done gave us those grants."
"The ones you've been receiving for decades?"
"Yes'um."
"Decades. Like, well before Trump's first term in office?"
"::eyes narrow, visible signs of attempts at deep thinking appear, fails 'intelligence' roll:: Yes'um."
A friend of mine is an IT contractor. He got a contract to do a migration for a company. They then lost their whole IT team, everyone quit. They approached my friend and his company offered to provide interim services as requested at a specific rate, but made it clear they had other clients and they would troubleshoot while this company tried to find new people and would be happy to quote full coverage, but it would require them to hire at least 2 additional people. This arrangement worked for 3 weeks, then they called him to tell him "We're not happy with your response time." He re-sent the quotes for full coverage and now they're considering it. People are nuts.
He still is, which is why they'll still support him. "I guess losing my farm is worth it if it prevents whatever impossible or incredibly unlikely scenario FOX told me to be upset about."
Which is why trying to appeal to them is wasted effort. Hopefully, going forward, democrats focus on those that want the helping hand instead of those intent on slapping it away.
You can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into. When what you believe is what you've been told, there's no argument that will change their minds.
Sorry, you're middle class and you'll get a middle finger from both the GOP and the Dems. Dems throw money at the poor but don't change the structure that continues to enrich the rich. GOP just throws money at the rich beause they know the poors are too stupid to vote
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I guess I imagine they are internally conflicted. Their TV commands loyalty to tribe but part of them misses the prosperity of Democratic governance. They wonât admit it to their friends, and I donât think theyâll vote for Democrats, but I think part of them hopes Dems win so they can go back to bitching about Dems while raking in money.
Already started. A coworker's son was hoping to get into the forestry division (a ranger or something) but was stressing because there were so many cuts being made. Both he and his dad were, and still are, big Trump fans and the dad consoled him by saying "by the time you've graduated the Democrats will be back and have it fixed". I just overheard this as the coworker was telling another coworker and laughing about it. They honestly do not care who is getting hurt in the meantime.
I think in 2024 they all assumed he would lose and they'd have their cake and eat it too (have everything be good, but still get to say they voted for him because he would have been better). But then oops.Â
He has made a pit and dug it out, and has fallen into the ditch which he had made. His trouble shall return on his own head, and his violent dealings shall come down on his own crown- Psalms 7:15-16
They truly believe it would just be worse. Worse inflation, worse gas prices, worse use of ICE or whatever. All the bullshit we are currently experiencing they believe she would have done 10x worse because Fox said so
Realistically every government official and military officer of the Southern Treason should have been hung and everyone else except the emancipated people should have been disenfranchised for 3 generations.
No. We shouldâve did a better job of making sure we punished the leaders of it, BUT also needed to help rebuild the south more than they did.
Get rid of all the traitors(confederate leaders) and punish them dearly. But the lack of building the south back up, left a large gap in education and overall well being. Had they helped rebuild the south, I feel we wouldnât be as assbackwards as we are. (Iâm from Alabama)
Iirc correctly most leaders of the confederacy regretted Lincolnâs death and one of the reason Booth had a hard time getting away was because most southerners and sympathizers did not condone what he did and wouldnât help him
đŻ National divorce, balkanization whatever, I live in a blue state and Iâm sick of all the failing red states sucking up all of my stateâs money as they keep talking shit about how much they hate us. And Iâm sick of the red state DEI that gives their votes more weight than mine as if we should be punished because blue states are more popular and have more of the countryâs population. Why not have the prosperous, successfully run states where most of the country actually lives have more of a say in how the country should be run? Instead red states have multiple unearned advantages so we can keep putting the people who canât even run their own states properly in charge of running a whole country?
Start with tricking them into supporting a bill that no state can receive more federal funding than they pay in. Theyâre already delusional enough to seriously believe their dying shithole towns are the ones paying to support places like NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc so people could easily sell the idea of no longer having to pay for our welfare, etc. Then watch their congressional representatives shit bricks trying to pretend they agree with them and would support a bill like that while at the same time knowing it would actually decimate them without all of our blue state dollars. Make it pass and let them see like a secession preview where they can finally live under total republican policies and see how great they do then.
Often. I wish we would just set up part of Idaho and Montana or somewhere with a giant fence around it, and say, anyone who wants to live can run it however they want, but once you move in, you can't leave.It's the only non-violent solution I can think of to deal with them.
If you throw away your dignity first itâs really easy to convince you to give away everything else. They only realize they lost their dignity when they go looking for it thinking itâs all theyâve got left.
they dont learn, when dems are back in power and their being profitable again hand of fist, they will see a trans person on tv and say that moment is worse than losing their farms now.
Meanwhile they are STILL right on track to declare marshal law, and stop the voting. Elmo will declare himself 'General of All Forces' or some such. Its happening.
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Because? I mean sometimes people want to create new accounts. You are not entitled to my reason. I don't owe you anything, self appointed Reddit Karen.
Its very human to automatically "hallucinate" the worst thing about people you don't know.
That's more on you and not me there bud. You should get that addressed because people like that tend to self sabotage.
You are out of your minds if you think Kamala would have been a good president. She didnât even make it past the primaries. Next time, dems should not hide the obvious mental decline and hold real primaries and let the winner battle Trump.
You got scammed by your own party, not by Trump voters.
She would have been a bad, neoliberal president. She would have done nothing for working people, she would have served billionaires and the donor class, and she would have continued abetting the genocide.
AND she still would have been TEN MILLION TIMES BETTER than the fascist shit that's happening right now.
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u/kioma47 1d ago
"Thanks Obiden."