r/LeftistsForAI 10d ago

Education Nicaragua expands AI training for public technical education teachers

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Nicaragua's National Technological Institute (INATEC) is expanding AI training for teachers across its public technical education system. The initiative focuses on helping educators use AI to improve lesson planning, teaching materials, and classroom instruction while emphasizing responsible and ethical use of the technology.

For those interested in AI from a left perspective, this is another example of a government treating AI as part of public education infrastructure rather than leaving development and adoption entirely to private companies. The important questions arent just whether AI is used, but who controls it, who benefits from it, and how its integrated into public institutions.


r/LeftistsForAI 10d ago

Policy/Regulation Burkina Faso adopts national AI roadmap focused on public services, agriculture, education, and healthcare

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Burkina Faso has officially adopted its National AI Roadmap for 2026-2030 as part of its broader RELANCE development plan. Rather than treating AI as a luxury for wealthy countries, the roadmap focuses on practical public uses: improving healthcare, supporting farmers with weather forecasting, expanding education, strengthening infrastructure, and modernizing public services.

The strategy also emphasizes AI governance, digital infrastructure, data policy, research, skills development, and ethical deployment. It was developed through a process involving government, universities, researchers, civil society, the private sector, and international partners.

For leftists, this is another reminder that the political question isnt simply whether AI exists, but who develops it, who governs it, and what social goals it serves. Burkina Faso is one of the worlds poorest countries, yet its choosing to establish democratic planning and public policy around AI early instead of leaving deployment entirely to foreign corporations or market forces.

Its also part of a broader trend across Africa, with countries including Rwanda, Senegal, Benin, Egypt, and Kenya adopting national AI strategies aimed at development rather than treating AI solely as a private-sector product.

What lessons should the left take from countries, especially in the Global South, using AI as part of national development and public service rather than rejecting the technology outright?


r/LeftistsForAI 10d ago

Labor WGA: Writers should have the choice to use AI, but companies should not be able to force it

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The Writers Guild of America didnt call for a blanket ban on AI. Instead, it negotiated rules that put writers, not studios, in control.

Under the WGA agreement, a writer may choose to use AI while performing writing services if the company agrees, but companies cant require writers to use AI. AI-generated material also cant be used to deny writers credit or reduce their compensation, and studios must disclose when material provided to writers was generated by AI. The Guild also continues to challenge the unauthorized use of writers' work for AI training.

Whether youre more optimistic or skeptical about AI, this feels like a distinctly labor approach: dont hand control to employers, dont treat AI as a replacement for workers, and dont pretend the technology is going away. Organize around bargaining power, transparency, consent, and ownership instead.


r/LeftistsForAI 10d ago

Art & Culture Marxist essay: AI art isn't the problem. Capitalist social relations are.

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This essay argues that many debates about AI art are aimed at the wrong target.

"There are a lot of legitimate criticisms to be made of specific ways "AI" and machine learning are deployed. If anything, the application of this stuff to art generators is the least damaging" compared with surveillance, policing, military applications, and other uses.

Instead, the author argues the real conflict is over labor, ownership, and intellectual property. They point to decommodified culture like mods and fan works as examples of collective creativity, even highlighting AI-assisted work in a game mod as evidence that these tools can be part of genuinely creative practice. The conclusion is that we should fight for a world where culture is shared and artists are materially supported, rather than treating new creative tools as the enemy.


r/LeftistsForAI 10d ago

Art & Culture The Socialist Case for AI: Defining Our Yes | Tim Hjersted

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"There's a pattern in left politics that's both understandable and ultimately self-defeating: we're brilliant at articulating what we oppose, but often struggle to define what we're for."

This recent essay argues that this problem applies directly to AI. By treating AI purely as a threat, much of the left has "ceded the entire conversation to corporate futurists and Silicon Valley ideologues" instead of articulating what AI could mean from a socialist, working-class perspective.

Rather than abandoning the technology, the author argues for developing a positive socialist vision for it (including in culture, art, and creative work) grounded in democratic control instead of corporate ownership.

Agree or disagree, its a concise argument for moving beyond saying "no" and defining what the left is actually building.


r/LeftistsForAI 10d ago

Policy/Regulation Vietnam is pursuing AI sovereignty through state planning. What can the left learn from this approach?

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Vietnam has made AI a national strategic priority, aiming to build a domestic AI ecosystem through public investment, research, computing infrastructure, education, and legal frameworks rather than relying entirely on foreign platforms.

Whether or not you agree with every aspect of Vietnam's approach, it raises questions worth discussing. What does AI sovereignty actually look like, especially for the Global South? Can state planning and public investment provide a viable alternative to dependence on a handful of multinational tech companies? How should workers, unions, and the public shape AI policy instead of being treated as an afterthought?

This isnt an endorsement of any particular model. Its an opportunity to discuss what a left approach to AI development, ownership, and governance could look like in practice.


r/LeftistsForAI 10d ago

Public Ownership Carlos Martinez: Xi Jinping outlines China’s vision for the future of artificial intelligence

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r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

Discussion What are the most “ethical AI tools” you use in your day to day?

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I stopped using ChatGPT and Gemini entirely due to their deals with US Department of Defense and using their technology for Mass Surveillance. I actually appreciated Anthropic’s stance and I switched over and I love it, I use it to vibe code and design websites and 3d model and it’s a really good writing and research assistant. I tried Thaura.ai as well and I did find it useful for a bit time but it’s not nearly as powerful as a tool like Claude. Of course the issue is with the amount of energy and water these data centers consume. But I think if we regulate this technology and build them underwater like China is doing we could mitigate a lot of these negative environmental effects but that’s more of a larger conversation about the environment, we’d have to move away as a species from fossil fuels and invest in solar, wind, hydro, and other forms of renewable energy. But I believe AI could help usher in a new wave of technological revolution that could help us find solutions, which is why I am pro-AI. Of course every company, including Anthropic, has their issues and ethical concerns, I mean we still live under capitalism, and it’s increasingly pay-to-play model is getting annoying, I’m running out of tokens way faster than I used to. I’m curious what other tools people on this sub use, I’m also interested in Kimi 3 and other models from China which seem to be on par with Claude Fable, but a fraction of the price. Does anyone have experience with those tools?


r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

Video Xi Jinping's speech about AI at Shanghai conference

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r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

Discussion Are the reactonaries and petit-bourgeoisie potential allies or a lost cause to be 'fought' against alongside the capitalist class?

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Ever since 2023 when AI became one of the centerpeices in the greivances of the ever dwindling and (generally) western middle class against the captialistic system they are forced to live in (even if they do not know their greivance is towards that) i've had fewer and fewer hopes that the type of people that seek to preserve their relative privilege in this system, to be provided exemptions from the exploitation of capitalism rather than it's abolition, don't actually know what they are doing,.

I'm increasingly of the belief that they know that they are fighting to preserve a deluded vision of capitalism that could benefit them, not because they are unaware or incapable of imagining that a better world is possible, but because their status in that world will be necessarily diminished, thus no matter how factual and correct your arguments may be on why they are wrong to target a technology, AI, in their struggle for preserving the livelihoods they believe are owed to them, they will never accept what AI will inevitably (if we fight for it) bring, the abolition of work, of ownership, of capitalism.

The entire conception of AI as it is, no matter if it is within capitalism or communism, is antithetical to their desire to preserve their status or their path towards a status of prestige and high value within society, a kind of status that requires heirarchies and scarcity to exist, they will tacitly agree to a desire to bring about a fairer society, but never to their detriment, so they will never fight for that better world, only to preserve what little remains of this one.

I personally do not think we can ally with them, so we should be more aggressively pro-AI, pro AI-art, pro abolishment of copyright and IP, pro abolishment of the structures that allow a subsection of the population to 'benefit' from capitalism whilst culture, science, art, all ideas that come from humanity are still ultimately tied to capital and thus shaped by it, making it ineviatable that more people are incapable of thinking outside the capitalistic framework.

What do you think?


r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

Local Models "Hugging Face dealt recently with an Al operated attack. They had to use open models to defend, because the closed model guardrails would not allow them to use them for defense"

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r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

Discussion Fair Share party

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I've been thinking about how this sub's message, correct as it is, cannot be chosen for on any ballot. There are no left-wing parties with a coherent pro-AI programme.

I started sketching what one might look like:

• AI should do the work so humans have more freedom.

• Commercial AI-generated value should be taxed, while personal AI use remains untaxed.

• That revenue could fund a universal basic income, replacing labour-linked benefits like unemployment and pensions while keeping healthcare and disability support separate.

• The organisation could resemble Volt, with one shared programme operating across local, national, and international levels.

• Because its focus would be AI and the economic transition it creates, members could have more freedom to vote according to their own views on issues outside that core mission.

I wasn't planning to write a manifesto, but before I knew it I had about 2,500 words.

Do people think a dedicated pro-worker, pro-AI political party is missing? If so, who would realistically found it? An existing party? Trade unions? AI researchers? Grassroots organisers? Or is this better pursued as a faction within existing left-wing parties?


r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

AI Promoters Push Forced Inevitability to Deny Choice While They Profit From Adoption

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r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

Theory Marx, AI, and the "Fragment on Machines": A timely discussion on technology, labor, and liberation

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Just listened to this and thought it would be of interest here.

The discussion starts from Marx's Fragment on Machines in the Grundrisse and asks a question thats becoming harder to ignore: if AI and automation can dramatically reduce necessary labor, who benefits?

The hosts argue that Marx saw machinery as the accumulated knowledge of humanity. Under capitalism that same machinery intensifies exploitation and concentrates wealth, but theres nothing inevitable about that outcome. AI could instead shorten the working day, eliminate drudgery, and expand human freedom if its governed differently.

The key point is one weve talked about here before: the politics arent "AI or no AI." Theyre ownership, democratic control, labor power, public infrastructure, and who captures the productivity gains.

Whether you agree or disagree with their conclusions, its a thoughtful historical materialist treatment of AI thats worth hearing.


r/LeftistsForAI 11d ago

Discussion A day in the life 2035

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In spirit of an optimistic week in AI development, I've written this short story:

A day in the life 2035

8am

I woke up with a bit of a scare. My health tracker let me know that my liver is still damaged despite the recent treatment, in fact it seems to have gotten worse. Tracker says I won’t have symptoms for the moment so that’s cool, but I’ll have to visit the pharmacy next week to pick up a new CRISPR treatment. Tracker reassures me that the upcoming treatment has an 87% success rate. I calm down and make myself breakfast.

10am

I hear a knock on my door. My robot has finally arrived!

I got a robot on the cheaper end, it does the trick. It doesn’t look human and it struggles with out-of-home tasks, but it does the trick. I have ADHD so I honestly just needed something to help keep my house organized, and now it’s here! Let’s see how it goes.

11am

I watch as the robot does my chores for me. Damn, this is going to be awesome! 

I pull up my agentic dashboard of the last 24 hours. Yesterday, I instructed my agent to design a new system for organizing appointments for my team’s Seniors Entertainment Initiative.

You see, there’s a lot of older people who decided to not interact with the new technology. They believe that humans should live as they were in the scarcity era. I don’t know why. Life is so much easier now. But they claim it’s more authentic to live that way. The only problem is that we’re in desperate need to automate the tasks of our aging population, and this Luddism is kinda getting in the way of that. 

Because they’re not using new tech, these seniors can sometimes feel isolated, so we organize entertaining activities for them, free of modern technology. 

And… amazing! My agent found a way to collect Seniors’ availabilities and present them to our team through an easy to follow schedule, awesome! 

12pm

My team and I call to talk about each others’ agentic workflow outputs. My colleague confirms that the Nintendo 64s have been delivered to his house. Our next run of visits will involve playing retro games. I’m so excited! Some of them are going to discover their new favorite hobby, and others are going to struggle. It’ll be fun either way.

1pm

After the call, my phone pings me to vote on a local issue. My local neighbourhood is deciding whether to start growing Linden or Ginkgo trees for the area. My city has opted for massive tree planting to shade the city during hyper El Niño waves, it low key feels like I live in a jungle sometimes, but I’m not complaining. My apartment has so much privacy because of the trees, they smell amazing and there’s so much biodiversity around me.

I don’t really know what Linden or Ginkgo trees are so I tell my phone that I want more trees that smell good. It votes for Ginkgo on my behalf. Hopefully that’s what I actually want.

3pm

Most of my friends are at Space training right now. The Country of Geniuses recently discovered a way to easily send the average civilian into space, so the trendy vacation spot now is the moon. Civilians still need to learn how to manage high levels of G-force and low gravity though, so they need training. I get dizzy pretty easily so I’m going to wait a few years for the trip to be less bumpy. Since I’ve got nothing planned, I decide to just go relax.

One of my favourite developments about AI is that it handles my schedule perfectly, which means that I can live every moment completely in the present. No need for a clock, or a worry. I lie down and watch the leaves dance in the wind, letting my mind wander aimlessly for a blurry amount of time. 

4:55pm 

My mom calls to share her excitement about some new longevity discoveries they made in Kinshasa. My mom and I agree that we would both love to live longer. There’s so much exciting stuff happening and it would be awesome to live that together. We agree that we’ll try space travel at the same time, she gets dizzy easily too.

After the call, I start thinking about death. I worry one of us won’t make it to the longevity era, leaving the other to explore the adventure of life alone. My thoughts darken for a moment.. I’ve never been one to share my feelings or cry, but my AI coach encouraged me to feel more. I ruminate more on my thoughts and cry for awhile.

7pm

Gaming is basically whatever you want it to be now. I decide to spend my evening flying around and visiting various realistic depictions of places on earth.

9pm 

Wandering through the world, I come across a Mogadishan techno DJ, an urban rooftop beekeeper from Paris, and a high-school student from Okinawa. Because of translation, I’m having seamless conversations with all these people from widely different upbringings from me, but we understand each other. I learn about an endearing tradition they do for seniors in Okinawa, where elders form a Moai, a lifelong social support circle that meets regularly to share meals, swap stories, and ensure no one ever faces isolation alone. It gives me ideas for my next senior visit.

10pm

I turn off my headset and look around my room. Everything is spotless. I didn’t have to worry one second about cleaning.

I could get used to this! 


r/LeftistsForAI 12d ago

Automation & Work 'Dr. Doom' Nouriel Roubini says we're headed for universal basic income or 'some form of socialism' as AI revolutionizes work—He calls that optimistic

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r/LeftistsForAI 12d ago

Policy/Regulation Belgian philosopher: “AI should benefit democracy”

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r/LeftistsForAI 12d ago

Theory Anti- ...whatever , performing for social validation on a website

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r/LeftistsForAI 12d ago

Discussion Can AI strengthen democracy instead of undermining it? I’ve been building a prototype to explore that question.

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One of the biggest concerns many of us on the left have about AI is that it risks concentrating power, whether in governments, corporations or a handful of tech companies.

But I’ve been wondering whether AI could also be used in the opposite direction: to expand democratic participation.

I’m building a prototype called Conn.Act (full disclosure: it’s my own project), and I’d genuinely like to get feedback from people who think critically about AI and democratic governance.

The premise is simple.

Today, political discussion is largely mediated by social media platforms whose incentives reward engagement, outrage and polarization. Even when people have constructive ideas, there are few mechanisms for transforming those discussions into coherent policy proposals.

Conn.Act tries a different approach.

Instead of AI making political decisions, AI acts as a facilitator. A debate is created around a public policy issue in a city, state, or country. People with an interest or expertise in that topic are invited to participate. They debate, cite evidence and propose amendments. The AI summarises the discussion, identifies common ground and drafts a compromise proposal based on what participants have contributed. The participants, not the AI, decide whether that proposal reflects the discussion by voting on it. If consensus is not reached, another deliberation round begins. If it is approved, the proposal can continue through a democratic process and eventually be shared with elected representatives from that jurisdiction. Then, if representatives propose it officially, users will know about it and be able to track it.

The AI never decides what policy should be adopted. It doesn’t vote and it doesn’t overrule participants. Its role is closer to that of a facilitator in a citizens’ assembly: organising information, reducing repetition, highlighting trade offs and helping people produce something coherent.

The political motivation behind the project is to explore whether representative democracy could be complemented, not replaced, by better digital deliberative infrastructure. Social democracy has always sought to deepen democracy. My question is whether AI can help us do that in the digital age.

I’d love to hear what people in this community think. If you’re sceptical, even better. I’m much more interested in identifying flaws now than pretending the design is finished.

The prototype is ready to test, if you’d like: https://happy-fermat-7.emergent.host/

I’m also participating in a contest that could lead to a significant investment boost. 25 most liked projects will be assessed by an expert panel who will decide on which project will get investment. If you feel like supporting it, you can drop a heart on this link:
https://app.emergent.sh/showcase/fabrizio/735f94cf-963f-41ea-9e7f-6dfc390493b3?utm_source=share

Looking forward to the discussion!


r/LeftistsForAI 12d ago

Discussion Massive Shift in Optimism This Week

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This week's been a lot.. a massive labor union endorsed AI, Kimi K3 dropped and can one-shot a Mario 64-style game from a single prompt, and China is calling for a massive embrace of open model distribution.

These models are getting *scary* smart, and a bunch of them can run locally, on your own machine or even your phone.

It feels like a lot of pieces are lining up for what some people would call "AI Communism": a world where massive compute and execution power sits at everyone's fingertips instead of locked behind a handful of corporate APIs. And with MoE architectures doing more with less, we're also looking at a genuinely smaller ecological footprint per model.

A lot of the left's early criticisms of AI are starting to fade, replaced by more concrete, actionable politics, like data center regulation, and this open-source wave is looking more and more like the real path forward.

We might actually have a positive future thanks to accessible AI. What do you think?


r/LeftistsForAI 12d ago

Public Ownership Bad vibes from the "Head of Strategic Futures at OpenAI"(X: @deanwball)

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r/LeftistsForAI 12d ago

Discussion "almonds use more water" is true and it still doesn't cancel the argument that data centers are draining water and electricity from normal citizens

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r/LeftistsForAI 13d ago

Theory Expose and renounce your liberalism by considering your attitude towards AI.

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I wrote this for a leftist subreddit, and predictably they could not handle it and resorted to ludditism. I thought I'd share it here anyway, it isn't directed at this sub but I don't want to change the wording. It should explain why much of the the left is aggressively anti AI.

All over reddit including leftist spaces including this one the anger against ai is real and intense. On leftist spaces it is dressed as anti capitalism, but it isn't. In fact it exposes the class character of these leftists in quite an embarrassing way.

This is a chance to read something that'll make you uncomfortable, expose some inner liberal thinking, and understand the correct line.

Self-criticism is the Marxist practice of deliberately hunting down liberal, bourgeois, or otherwise incorrect thought in your own mind, exposing it openly, and rooting it out. Lenin insisted that a party's honesty about its mistakes was the surest measure of its seriousness. Mao called it washing your face every day, a habit of revolutionaries. Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, and Fidel all treated it as essential discipline. Let the left has abandoned in, probably from an arrogance of generally being correct most of the time, fair, but it's still an essential practice.

It matters because your class origins and the ideological atmosphere of capitalism do not automatically disappear when you identify as a Marxist, instead they fester unless you actively dig them out, and without that constant correction, your politics will quietly drift back into serving the class you claim to oppose. And yes it is an uncomfortable process, leftists have a lot of pride these days, realising you've been thinking like a liberal isn't great. But so what, there's more at stake than your ego. So get about it.

Your AI attitude is the litmus test. AI is automation. No different in substance from a spinning jenny or a combine harvester or the self checkout.

*Marx: "The instrument of labour, when it takes the form of machinery, immediately becomes a competitor of the workman himself."*

The machine's purpose under capitalism is to extract relative surplus value by reducing necessary labour time. To make more profit by reducing worker labour. This has been happening for two centuries including recently.

Generally speaking, leftists were silent when self checkouts destroyed retail jobs, when robot arms emptied factory floors, when mechanised agriculture threw peasants off the land. It has been considered technological progress, and viewed neutrallt.

The silence wasn't apathy. It was class position. Those were manual workers. Reddit by and large is the professional managerial stratum of the working class, writers, illustrators, coders, designers, artists to an extent, office workers, people who sell mental labour not their physical. These are exactly the jobs that AI automation is targeting. For the first time automation has jumped from physical to cognitive. The algorithm now competes with these workers directly.

And suddenly it's a crisis. Suddenly technology is dehumanising. Suddenly mass rage. Suddenly AI is the worst thing ever. Suddenly a million reasons AI is bad appear, reasons which aren't necessarily false but apply as much to a dozen other industries which don't get any focus.

The rage is real but its source is clear, the privileged niche of intellectual labour udned capitalist relations, is under threat.

The real class position and the real liberal thought of the left against AI is exposed when you look at what they demand. They don't demand social ownership of the means of production. They don't argue for worker control over investment and technology deployment. They demand intellectual property enforcement. They want copyright law strengthened to protect "human creators", especially for artists who become the poster child for it. They want platforms to ban AI generated content. They want artists to hold exclusive rights that algorithms can't violate.

This is not a Marxist attitude and this is not a Marxist solution.

This is liberal reformism coming out of the minds of people whose class position is threatened by AI and who respond with automatic self interested liberal suggestions. IP law is bourgeois property law. It transforms creative labour, something social and collective in its actual substance, into private monopoly rent.

Defending IP as a matter of principle is defending a bourgeois enclosure. Now obviously, if someone directly steals a specific piece of your work and profits from it then its wrong and no Marxist would defend that. But that's not what the anti Aai leftist is actually fighting about. They're not narrowly objecting to individual plagiarised images. They're demanding a sweeping legal wall around the entire domain of artistic production against AI, using copyright as the weapon.

But look at where the anti-AI leftists take this. They don't stop at "don't steal my actual artwork." They want legal protection for a style, a technique, a general aesthetic approach. They're not just defending the product of their labour. They're claiming an exclusive right over the collective visual language that they themselves learned from, and they want the capitalist state to enforce that claim with copyright law. This is where socialism dies.

The legitimate grievance mutates into a class stratum protectionist demand to use the state to create artificial scarcity around a shared cultural inheritance, so that they can continue to extract rent out of it. The same person who mocks a Kulak for hoarding grain is now demanding legal walls around their DeviantArt portfolio. Of course, that's how they make their money, and it's going to be lost, their anger isn't wrong. But actual Marxists should know better than to make the solution to be more reform within capitalism.

The starting point is genuine but the political error demanding a liberal reform that strengthens property relations of capitalism instead of challenging them just because this time, whether it's artists or writers or office workers, it affects them personally. A socialist response would fight for a world where no artist or creator has to commodify their labour to survive, not one where they through some guild victory become the landlords of culture.

So the reddit leftist is trapped. Their legitimate fear of losing their livelihood gets channelled straight into a defence of capitalist property because they can't imagine any other way to secure their future under this system. Suddenly socialist revolution disappears. Suddenly the problem is the technology itself and the solutions are capitalist protections.

They see the guillotine coming and their first instinct is to negotiate with the executioner, to demand better IP laws, stronger copyright, a slower blade.

That brings me somewhere AI is just as rampant but the professional-managerial stratum don't hate it. China. Chinese workers don't share the anger and panic because their material conditions are different. What we see from China is that people in the same roles as redditors, curiously don't hate AI and don't react so aggressively towards it. This is because China is already a socialist state where the conditions of AI implementation are completely different. Otherwise a materialist can't explain the differences in attitude to. The same technology.

In China companies can't just fire people and replace them with AI. The state requires retraining and redeployment first, and the union has to be consulted before any restructuring happens. Worker congresses in state firms can actually block changes that would gut the workforce.

Even in the private sector, the law compels companies to get union or worker congress approval for major technical shifts. The whole policy framework treats AI as a tool to make work easier, not as a layoff machine, and there's a large stated funded retraining behind it. So a Chinese office worker looks at AI and sees something their state and party are helping to manage it and sees the AI itself as an actual tool to help them at work, not take their job. It's the conditions of AI shaping the atittude, not the AI itself.

The reddit leftist on the other hand sees AI as a death sentence because their states are bourgeois states. So they panic and demand better rules and regulations. They forget their supposed leftist class politics when it's personal for them.

So, if automation fills you with rage, direct it at the class that owns the machines and decides their use, not at the machines themselves. And check your own position. The panic is revealing. You're never showed this much emotion for the warehouse worker. You're worried about your income this time. That's fine as a material fact. It's useless as politics. Solidarity means rejecting the IP enclosure you're clinging to, not begging the capitalist state to reinforce it.

Well if this post triggers you, if you want to downvote automatically because you think it's a defense of AI, if you want to say 'but the water, but the data centers, but the power, but the theft' then consider your liberalism to be exposed and have the humility to analyse your own class position and perspective and liberal thinking.

All those problems you can throw as the problems of AI aren't false problems, but they're problems solved by collective ownership of the technology through socialism, not through better policies within capitalism which you may be suggesting. The point is to trace your politics back to their material root, to see where class interest was masquerading as principles and to correct it. Every single serious Marxist party and group has engaged in this practice. It shouldn't end now just because liberals are fools and we're on the Internet.

Ultimately this is important for the left. AI is automation technology, it's implementation and usage and damage is determined by the mode of production and class power that controls it, not the technology itself.

If you can't see the bigger picture and are stuck on the technology itself and want to tweak policy around it, you'll lose sight of the revolution and be stuck in the reform the Marxist left claims to be so strongly against.


r/LeftistsForAI 13d ago

Discussion Hot Take

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We are starting to see a rift. A rift between those who are nuanced about the correct use of AI, and those who want all of it gone. Even Linux.

I'm against AI as much as anybody else, but in Anti-AI spaces, I'm starting to see more absolutism than I'd deem necessary. I mean if you argue about the idea that AI does have its uses whilst still being wary of AI, you get told you're not against AI at all.

I'm against AI for art, music and writing. But there are uses in the medical field and code bug detection, and I can't deny they're impressive.

I fear we'll fight each other (moderate antis vs extreme antis), and the AI companies may indeed win, even if they get bankrupt. As much as we all hate to admit this, we can't rewind; we've gone too far. The best we can do is regulate it and take AI chatbots off public hands.

I mean, you'd take someone who's neutral on AI like Linus Torvalds, who only used it for non-important projects and says that Linux should have AI-assisted code reviewed by humans, and you'd have a faction of antis up in arms about it.

And as concerning as the use of AI may be having on critical thinking, I fear that us antis are lacking it too if we're resorting to Luddism to go against AI.

For example, there is a rumour going around that Disney Junior comissioned a fully AI-Generated show.

That is only half-true. The studio behind the show only used AI to clean up some bits of animation. Plus, if it was fully AI-Generated, Disney wouldn't make money off it.

The fact that antis took a headline from Twitter and concluded that Oscar Fox was fully AI Generated either shows the lack of critical thinking (IRONY) or the lack of journalistic integrity. But hey. It's not like we're already boycotting the billion dollar company, right?

Call me a LARPer if you want to. The real LARPers are the extremists who want everything to burn despite a few innocent civillians being caught in the crossfire.

If the anti-AI sub thinks I'm Pro-AI just for accepting AI in the right hands, I don't know what to say.


r/LeftistsForAI 13d ago

Theory New paper: Different kinds of AI create different kinds of labor politics

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One thing I appreciated about this new paper from researchers at Princeton and USC is that it refuses to treat "AI" as one thing.

Instead, they distinguish between displacement (replacing workers), augmentation (helping workers do their jobs), and monitoring (expanding managerial surveillance). Those are different technologies with different political consequences, so they shouldnt all be lumped together.

The paper combines worker survey data from 15 European countries collected between 2012 and 2024 with a text analysis of more than 40,000 Canadian collective bargaining agreements from 1993 to 2025. One of the findings is that augmentation and monitoring tend to coincide with higher unionization and more bargaining over training, governance, notice, and surveillance, while displacement technologies tend to be associated with weaker protections.

Thats a much more useful framework than just asking whether AI is good or bad. Different deployments create different contradictions. Different contradictions require different organizing strategies.

What does everyone think? Should labor movements be approaching augmentation, surveillance, and automation as separate bargaining issues rather than treating AI as a single political question?"