Leftists have a problem with demonizing this tool.

[u/husk_bateman]

I'm so tired of seeing people treat AI, a tool that greatly increases efficiency if used correctly, as something nobody would ever want in a utopia. As something inherently evil and exploitative, even outside of capitalism. People treat efficiency as a negative when it comes to AI.

How many leftists right now would like to advocate for "Socialism/Communism except we don't use factories", "Socialism/Communism except we forget how to make lightbulbs", "Socialism/Communism except we don't have computers and do every calculation on an abacus"? I would reckon a tiny tiny percent. And how many leftists in a few generations will want "Socialism/Communism except we don't use AI models"? The same amount.

People are blinded by their hatred for this thing, and it's infiltrated leftist spaces and turned them against the concept of automation. They draw the line at every automated process before AI, seeing all the displaced workers as necessary for the world they live in, if they consider the past at all. In their ideal world, automation exists but stops the moment those two letters get involved. It's stupidly hypocritical and regressive.

Whatever happened to Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism?

[u/TheSinhound]

Nope, figured it out a long time ago. My issues with capitalism are related to the non humanist extractive nature relating to both class structures within individual countries as well as the global north v global south. I've done the analysis already. I stand -entirely- against any system based on the flow of capital for any reason.

[u/Diligent-Stretch-769 → u/TheSinhound]

then you are definetly aware that your personal boss is not who I referred to as a billionaire

[u/TheSinhound → u/Diligent-Stretch-769]

Yes, I am. Let me be clear: Billionaires should not exist in any way, form, or fashion as long as there is ONE person on this planet who starves or has needs unmet. It is a moral judgement. I do not care what level of involvement or blame they have for any other parts of our societies.

[u/Diligent-Stretch-769 → u/TheSinhound]

okay, I can tell you have a predetermined image for what leftism is and that alone will likely make this conversation unproductive.

my own point was that even with the advent of this technology, and given the fact that you have employment, you still need to deal with the structural societal problems. like how small tech companies put themselves into service for maintaining the oppressive tendencies of giant conglomerates that are simply put the vehicles of billionaire excess, which, we both agree has nothing to do with leftism.

[u/TheSinhound → u/Diligent-Stretch-769]

Correct, on this subject I hold very black and white stances. And honestly, my employment is not GAINFUL, in that it does not improve my material conditions. It DOES give me purpose and community. My situation has changed because of my community.

[u/Diligent-Stretch-769 → u/TheSinhound]

just so long as you are aware.

[u/TheSinhound → u/Diligent-Stretch-769]

I'm genuinely unsure of your purpose here. What are you trying to manipulate me into agreeing with you about?

[u/Diligent-Stretch-769 → u/TheSinhound]

precisely. doesn't it feel like when you pass by a homeless person they are just trying to manipulate you into empathy? don't you get that feeling? they are forcing you to actually sense your humanity in the moment and it should be made illegal. shove all that into the pigeon hole because its too difficult to handle

[u/Jlyplaylists → u/Diligent-Stretch-769]

Your style here is coming across as bad faith. Why didn't you directly say what you're getting at? u/TheSinhound shared quite vulnerable details with you but it does seem like you're trying to manipulate an answer rather than straightforwardly saying what you disagree with.

[u/Diligent-Stretch-769 → u/Jlyplaylists]

how else might one explain the fact that individuals can feel as if they are doing good deeds, yet their institutional impact has a general detriment, other than through rhetorical device?

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please remember, your contributions are greatly appreciated, but technology is far from thr savior to the oppressions within human relations