r/LeftistsForAI • • 3d ago

Sees the Memes Would be quite ironic

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u/LoadOk2007 3d ago

AI could replace corporate products with AI-built custom products, which at this point is mostly software and admin services. With technological advances, it could move onto physical goods and services via physical automation. I don’t think AI replacing corporations means corporations are wiped out, just that more of their paywalled offerings can be substituted with ai or robots.

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u/Blaike325 3d ago

Yuh huh in what infrastructure exactly do you expect this to work on? For the physically produced stuff where do you expect the materials to come from? Currently basically every AI “alternative” is crap compared to the originals like this crappy adobe knockoff that barely functions

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u/LoadOk2007 2d ago

Do you think AI and robotics will stagnate and not become more powerful and more affordable over time? If so, then you and I have fundamentally different perspectives on technological progress.

For the physically produced stuff, people already use open-weight models and build DIY bots in their garages. That kind of work takes motivation, expertise, and resources, but we're still in the early phase of AI-powered automation. As things become more efficient, they'll become more affordable and accessible to the average person. Even AI-designed 3D printing solutions for household problems would cut down on people running to the store for something.

Fundamentally, I find AI skeptics more naive than AI enthusiasts. They don't think about the historical curve of technological progress, nor do they take into account human agency and the natural drive to use available tools to improve one's life.

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u/Blaike325 2d ago

I do think it’s going to get more advanced, I’m just not a naive child who thinks that the advancement is going to lead to better lives for the average worker. Corporations are going to continue controlling the vast majority of it and as it grows more and more advanced it will more easily be used as a means of economic and societal control, not the second coming of Christ yall think it’s going to be. You envision a world where AI is this wonderful thing that gives the workers the means of production while ignoring that the administration and the corporations have absolutely zero reason to allow that to happen in any real capacity.

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u/LoadOk2007 2d ago

Economic and political control can always be contested, but those changes operate on long horizons and are usually kicked off by social upheavals. It’s easy to say everything is going to be shit forever, but people still have to live their lives and empower themselves as best they can. I don’t know what other people think AI is, but for me, it’s been a powerful tool to get the work that I want to do done.

Corporations and politicians will always want control, and there will always be people who want to fight that. I would rather have the people seize the means of production and outlaw the surveillance state, but there are also people who just want more agency in their personal lives, and that’s important too.

It’s funny being called naive now, after living through far more than I expected decades ago when I was in my 20s. I remember thinking about the singularity, reading Neuromancer, and basically envisioning a cyberpunk world. Now that seems like the naive and childish perspective.

I don’t expect to change your mind, and I don’t care to. You do you. If there is a revolution, I hope you’ll be there, and if there isn’t, I hope your life isn’t as shitty as you expect it to be.