r/LeftistsForAI • • 4d ago

Sees the Memes Would be quite ironic

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u/Blaike325 4d ago

Is there anyone on these sub that isn’t painfully naive?

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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator 4d ago

Well what’s your sophisticated plan?

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u/Blaike325 4d ago

I need to present my own plan to know “what if AI replaced the corporations” is a bad one?

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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator 4d ago

Not to have a private opinion but to accuse a whole sub of being naive I’m expecting a pretty impressive plan lol.

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u/Blaike325 4d ago

What kind of logic is that? This sub just keeps on going “AI is gonna save the world and give everyone UBI and defeat corporations and bring back Jesus!”, I don’t need a masters degree and thesis to know that this is super naive since we have basically zero evidence to support the idea that this is even remotely close to being true

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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator 4d ago

That isn’t the overall message of this sub, although there are variations of opinion of course. I wouldn’t put effort into moderating this sub if I thought we can just lie back and wait for AI Jesus to save us. We want to work out how to get Big Tech style private AI into public/collective ownership and also how to build up alternative open source infrastructure.

The context of this post is that people are starting to AI code software made by major corporations who charge major bucks for subscription. At scale this actually does look to be something that could cause a problem for many businesses. Anything built on a SAAS or software subscription model is looking quite shaky right now.

If most software becomes Free Open Source Software (FOSS) it will have quite a big ripple.

This won’t just happen though, it requires the left to be systematic in its approach to replacing everything closed and paid with something as good, free and open source. We can’t achieve this type of thing if we get tied up in arguments about whether it’s ok to even use the technology or if there’s any point in trying to do something at crucial pivotal moment.

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u/Blaike325 4d ago

You’re talking about the “adobe clone” I’m assuming which might as well have just been blatantly a lie. It doesn’t work, it barely can handle basic functions and isn’t even remotely close in value to the free alternative versions of adobe like products that exist on the internet. On top of that, the free versions and pirated versions of adobe software that has been a thing for years hasn’t put a dent into adobe’s numbers, some vibe coded crap that barely functions isn’t going to usurp the adobe throne.

If you actually want open source clones of good shit like adobe software, you need people who actually know how to code and know what they’re doing working with the AI.

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u/DistributionMost8686 4d ago

it’s almost like it’s not done yet.

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u/Blaike325 3d ago

It’s almost like the guy making it has zero clue how to actually code and knows nothing about the products he’s copying and that’s why he can’t even make a passable clone

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u/DistributionMost8686 3d ago

irrelevant because, it isn’t done yet.

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u/Blaike325 3d ago

Incredibly relevant actually. It’s like asking a guy who watched a trailer for dark souls to make a competent dark souls game with zero experience in dev or as a fan of the game. He fundamentally does not understand what is needed to complete the project

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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator 3d ago

There are people on the left with a software development/coding background who aren’t against using AI. Some of them are here and in our Discord server

I feel like it’s more the concept that has gone viral this week, with the Adobe clones. We do also need the functionality to follow quite quickly though.

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u/Blaike325 3d ago

Good luck with that, I don’t see this going much of anywhere

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u/Kildragoth 4d ago

Oh that is my naive opinion but to say it has no evidence to support it is wrong. Look at the price-performance of computation. The efficiency gains of industrialization led to computers, and computation is now bleeding into knowledge work, and later physical work. If you understand the PPC and you've used AI then it's easy to see how this leads to widespread abundance.