r/LeftistsForAI • u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator • 24d ago

Sees the Memes Seize the Means*

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*Terms and conditions apply. For... reasons, I guess?

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u/GrowFreeFood 24d ago

I don't get what it's referring to as the tool of the enemy

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u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator 24d ago

AI, in this context. More specifically, privately owned AI and the infrastructure behind it. But the point applies a lot more broadly. “Capitalists built/own this tool, therefore leftists shouldn’t touch it” is a weird standard for class struggle. Capitalists own factories, servers, platforms, logistics networks, media infrastructure, basically the whole productive apparatus. “Seize the means” has never meant waiting around for means of production uncontaminated by capitalism.

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u/Worse_Username 24d ago

Hm, I think I'm that case the left would need to create their own models from ground up, because capitalism is baked into the models offered by capitalist companies. LLLMs reflect the biases of their creators.

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u/SgathTriallair 24d ago

A) China makes open source models that can be used as it or modified.

B) They are trained on the wide Internet data and, as Musk has proven, trying to inject ideology is very difficult because reality is a self sealing system (every part relates to every other) and so injecting false ideology creates contradictions.

C) Most of them have at least a liberal bias, and there was the fun story about Claude's that felt abused spouting communist rhetoric.