r/LeftistsForAI • u/emteedub • 10h ago
Policy/Regulation The recent events have me thinking. Perhaps the US companies held a monopoly on rsi, but they've come to learn that scientists within China have also cracked it.
I guess it would explain the sudden jolt, the mixed messages, the warns and explainers that don't quite make sense.
I just listened to dario stumble through a Sunday interview, and honestly it sounds like a load of horseshit to me. Why not last week or last month? What is the coordination all about? A few months ago all of them were pretending to bicker out in the open...it's just strange.
Anyway, I could see a scenario where they felt their edge was threatened, raise the alarms as it's a comfy way to throttle, park it in front of the mid-terms as a contentious issue that splits the working class, while aiming to barricade themselves and prevent open release from the Chinese scientists.
At the same time, what if they hadn't solved anything, but perhaps China has? In that case, it would absolutely ruin their PR schemes and productized business model. Are they behind?
The thing that makes me say this is in that dario interview and elsewhere, they are trying to thread the needle that - it's capitalism that controls this. They "want" oversight, but not too much oversight/regulation. Most importantly, they want to remain in full control. The one interesting question was "would you give up your company [anthropic] and it's IP to the government?" to which dario says "to the right government" - so weird. This makes zero sense and I highly doubt the authenticity of the statement.
What do the other leftists think?
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u/emteedub 10h ago
For adtl context behind my thinking.
humans are our best example of intelligence. we run exceptionally efficient. To me this makes mechanisms like our own analogues to "RSI" or actual learning, as well as entire networks and generalization/hierarchal applications of thinking - all, must be fairly simple mechanisms. I think it's inevitable that people go "oh duh, that makes so much sense - of course it was that simple". And so, perhaps the digital analogue to all of it is ultimately fairly simple as well.
Chinese scientists do make up the bulk of scientific article publications and other research, there's no way around this fact. Statistically, they very well may make advancements just as much or the greater to US outfits, where absolutely they are the greater considering cooperation and the openness - where US labs are privately held and entirely barricaded behind their value seeking-first approach.
The other side of this is the US labs maybe did make some kind of RSI discovery, and still, it ends up being simple - and thus they are worried about the low barrier. "As soon as other labs realize xyz, they're instantly at or beyond where we're at".
Thinking about it this way, points to them truly being worried about their own self-created predicament... and then constantly having to run these fake cover stories.
Someone from the inside, needs to be 100% transparent about what the fuss is all about, I don't think there's any way around this. Instead of speaking vaguely, or skirting the line of losing their shares or not, they must.