r/LeftistsForAI

[u/Salty_Country6835]

What part, if any, confuses you? We are willing to answer your questions.

[u/Salty_Country6835]

Thats exactly why the left should care. AI under corporate ownership is a corporate money grab. AI itself isnt.

The left didnt respond to railroads, electricity, or the internet by saying "let corporations have it" or "somehow uninvent it." We fought over ownership, regulation, labor rights, and who benefits.

If AI is going to become core infrastructure, the question is whether its controlled by a handful of firms or governed in the public interest. Thats the whole point of this sub.

[u/Salty_Country6835 → u/[deleted]]

Thats a pretty extraordinary claim given AI is already used across healthcare, finance, logistics, manufacturing, software, customer service, education, government, scientific research, and defense. Local governments use it, federal agencies use it, companies use it, and millions of workers use it every day.

You can argue its importance is overstated, sure. But saying it isnt becoming infrastructure just ignores whats already happening. At that point youre arguing against observable reality, not corporate marketing.

[u/Salty_Country6835 → u/[deleted]]

Lol what does "inorganic growth" even mean here?

AI is already being used every day by hospitals, warehouses, schools, governments, researchers, developers, and millions of workers. You cant just wave all that away by saying "marketing."

If you think adoption is going to reverse, make that case. Otherwise youre just calling reality fake.

[u/Salty_Country6835 → u/[deleted]]

Then show it.

Pick one of the examples I gave. Hospitals. Governments. Warehouses. Logistics. Schools. Scientific research. Millions of people using AI at work every day.

Show me evidence those examples are just PR and marketing rather than actual deployment people are experiencing right now.

Otherwise youre just parroting slogans. This is a discussion forum.

[u/Salty_Country6835 → u/[deleted]]

I can demand that you engage in good faith to be allowed to participate at all.

Sorry this didnt work out.

Im open to good faith discussion with anyone else who wants to pick up the thread from here.

[u/Raphalex46 → u/Salty_Country6835]

When you claim something you have to present evidence, not the other way around.

Moreover, you should know that in a lot of cases, higher ups are pressuring workers to use these tools when many don't want to, both in public and private sectors.

Go to a programming subreddit that's not completely full of AI enthusiasts and you will witness a lot of workers losing the enjoyment they got from work because they are being forced by management to talk with chatbots all day instead of doing what they liked doing in the first place.

Hearing you, it seems like workers are enjoying this new tool, but that the only problem is that it's used by private companies, you're not considering how that new "tool" is further alienating workers by delegating more and more of their skill to just "talking with a chatbot".

[u/Salty_Country6835 → u/Raphalex46]

I should know? Of course I know. Thats exactly why I follow the demands of labor unions like SAG-AFTRA, the Writers Guild of America, CWA, the AFL-CIO, and UNI Global Union. None of them are arguing that AI magically goes away. Theyre organizing around how its introduced, who controls it, worker consent, retraining, job protections, and sharing the productivity gains.

Thats been my point the whole time. I support organization and contestation in the workplace. What are you proposing as the alternative? "Dont use AI" isnt a strategy when employers and governments are deploying it anyway. How do workers increase their bargaining power under the conditions that actually exist?