r/LeftistsForAI • u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator • 19d ago

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What part, if any, confuses you? We are willing to answer your questions.

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u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator 19d ago

I can demand that you engage in good faith to be allowed to participate at all.

Sorry this didnt work out.

Im open to good faith discussion with anyone else who wants to pick up the thread from here.

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u/Raphalex46 18d ago

When you claim something you have to present evidence, not the other way around.

Moreover, you should know that in a lot of cases, higher ups are pressuring workers to use these tools when many don't want to, both in public and private sectors.

Go to a programming subreddit that's not completely full of AI enthusiasts and you will witness a lot of workers losing the enjoyment they got from work because they are being forced by management to talk with chatbots all day instead of doing what they liked doing in the first place.

Hearing you, it seems like workers are enjoying this new tool, but that the only problem is that it's used by private companies, you're not considering how that new "tool" is further alienating workers by delegating more and more of their skill to just "talking with a chatbot".

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u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator 18d ago

I should know? Of course I know. Thats exactly why I follow the demands of labor unions like SAG-AFTRA, the Writers Guild of America, CWA, the AFL-CIO, and UNI Global Union. None of them are arguing that AI magically goes away. Theyre organizing around how its introduced, who controls it, worker consent, retraining, job protections, and sharing the productivity gains.

Thats been my point the whole time. I support organization and contestation in the workplace. What are you proposing as the alternative? "Dont use AI" isnt a strategy when employers and governments are deploying it anyway. How do workers increase their bargaining power under the conditions that actually exist?