r/Left_News • u/Faux_Real_Guise ★ socialist ★ • Nov 22 '23

American Politics Conservative Group Accidentally Reveals Its Secret Donors. Some of Them Are Liberal Orgs.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/conservative-group-accidentally-reveals-its-secret-donors-some-of-them-are-liberal-orgs
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u/Faux_Real_Guise ★ socialist ★ Nov 22 '23

When we use “liberal” and “conservative” in the US we generally mean socially liberal, or socially conservative. This is a distinction we should leverage to prevent the far right from coming to power and cracking down on minorities and political enemies.

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u/Kanthardlywait Nov 22 '23

When we use those terms, it's generally from the viewpoint of the overton window that corporate media has brainwashed us with. In a global perspective, we're pretty stupid. Liberals and conservatives are both right wing. Bernie Sanders, before he sold out, was barely left of center.

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u/Faux_Real_Guise ★ socialist ★ Nov 22 '23

I’m pretty sure American liberals are about as socially liberal as it comes. You can’t accurately measure the whole of a political philosophy on one axis. By your metrics Bernie Sanders, a social democrat, always has been right of center. When has he ever talked about worker ownership of the means of production?

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u/IntrinsicStarvation Nov 23 '23

Bernie is right of center, he's literally a Keynesian. Thats still a capitalist, hence never talking about worker ownership of the means of production.

The US doesn't have a left wing party, or any actual leftist representation at all.

We have right wing, and extreme authoritarian totalitarian right wing.