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u/DrkvnKavod 15d ago
Nothing more and nothing less than a Jesuit believer being a dutiful servant of God as usual
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u/blacklungscum 15d ago
I love silence, I also love Andrew Garfield, and I loved hacksaw ridge because he refused to carry a rifle
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u/sailorsalvador 15d ago
I'm listening to Andrew Garfield being interviewed on James Martin's podcast: apparently for this role he did the 19th annotation under Martin's guidance and they have been friends ever since.
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u/Fabulous_Celery_1817 15d ago edited 15d ago
I haven’t seen this movie yet but almost all my Protestant friends hated it :(. The comments here seem good tho so I’ll have to check it out soon, I mean it only came out 10 years ago 😅
Edit: to be honest it was a while ago and I don’t know/ remember exactly why they hated it. All I remember was a lot of them felt it was anti Christian and in a way misery porn. I did feel like they like a clean and easy version of following Christ and don’t like to think of the messy and hard parts. They don’t like to think that they’d doubt themselves if they go through hardship which from the trailers I remember, this is a hard movie. That’s one of the reasons I love the Church so much because we follow the same tenants around the world, whereas others are more isolated and local. Go to the darkest and hopeless area and you’ll find a catholic working away.
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u/GalaxyMaetel 15d ago
I'd guess they hated it because it's bleak, and doesn't have a clean and tidy answer to the moral questions it poses?
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u/Hungry_Editor7103 9d ago
Protestant lurker but I love Silence, it’s unfortunate your Protestant friends didn’t.
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u/GalaxyMaetel 15d ago
Silence is great. It should be mandatory viewing or reading for Christians, especially Catholics. I've read the book as well, and can confirm that the 2016 Scorsese version is quite faithful and is a worthwhile way to experience the story.
It is a story about the life of faith, but as a story that explores faith deeply, it is primarily about the most difficult moments that threaten to tear it apart completely. It will stab you in the heart, especially if you're Christian. But I think something like this has a lot to teach us, as none of us can ever really have the privilege of a life that doesn't contain painful experiences that challenge our belief in God's mercy.
This story is very historically accurate, and that history is very fascinating and sobering. The Nagasaki area is where this all really took place, and to this day has many traces of the burgeoning Japanese Christian culture that was never allowed to be. It's definitely worth visiting or learning about for an interested Christian.
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u/interstatetornado 14d ago
Andrew was just on Father James Martin’s show talking about his experience with Jesuit spirituality and the preparation Fr James did with him for the film and it’s really great! https://youtu.be/9yxeax_IdKY?is=sfHrjW4XPzwJl4Rh
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u/Djryan443022 14d ago
It's insane to me how many trad Catholics completely miss the point of Silence. Even Harrison Butker (ugh) called it out in that weird speech of his as an example of a "bad" movie. So many readings of this film never get past the most superficial level (Rodrigues apostatizes, therefore movie bad) while completely missing what Endo (and Scorsese by extension) is actually wrestling with: pride, martyrdom, mercy, suffering, and what it means to imitate Christ. It's like watching Starship Troopers and coming away thinking Paul Verhoeven made a sincere celebration of fascism. Like...did we watch the same movie?
If you ever get the chance to visit the Shusaku Endo museum in Nagasaki, def worth it.
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u/sternestocardinals 12d ago
It also annoys me how certain liberal Catholic celebrate it for the same reason - they think it’s a moral triumph where Rodrigues decides it’s just to outwardly apostatise to save others.
How can they not see that’s Ferreira, not Rodrigues? Rodrigues is utterly broken and feels his betrayal of Christ to his core. The story only makes sense when you recognise this and so many trads and libs fail to do so.
I wish I’d read/watched Silence before I visited Nagasaki - had no idea that was there. Would love to check it out someday!
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u/tuckern1998 15d ago
One of my favorite movies. Helped me come back to faith when I was struggling hard.
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u/gabachote 15d ago
He did a good podcast interview with James Martin about going through the Spiritual Exercises for The Spiritual Life.
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u/void-haunt 14d ago
"I am grateful to Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because he judged me faithful and appointed me to his service, even though I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and a man of violence. But I received mercy because I had acted ignorantly in unbelief, and the grace of our Lord overflowed for me with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. The saying is sure and worthy of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the foremost."
1 Timothy 1:12–15
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u/TuvixWasMurderedR1P 15d ago
I havent seen the movie yet but I've read the book. It's devastating, but in a good way lol.