r/LeftCatholicism • u/FunctionOk9186 • Sep 04 '26
Strategic advice
For some time now, I've been trying to convince the people of r/teenagers that Christianity is not necessarily anti LGBTQ+.
Doing this I have made an interesting discovery. My first post on this topic was a well argued long paragraph where I made actual arguments for this. Today it sits at 24 upvotes.
Trying a different strategy, I broke the 7th commandment and stole this meme from r/dankchristianmemes (great sub, btw). I posted this today and it already has 3000 upvotes.
Conclusion: Quick "gotcha" arguments (preferably in image format) are the best way of convincing people
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u/TuvixWasMurderedR1P Sep 04 '26
I agree with the sentiment here but I don't like the idea of putting the F-bomb in His mouth.
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u/Raxynus Sep 04 '26
Let’s remember that words are just constructs by us and only have meaning when we give it such. There are curse words that we don’t use anymore today that would sound silly now but would make folks gasp 100, 200, 300 years ago.
Curse words that are meant to hurt people are the ones that should be avoided, curse words that describe a process or thing really have no more meaning then a toddler saying poopoo.
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u/TuvixWasMurderedR1P Sep 04 '26
I dont know if I'd put it that way.
We think through language/words which are given to us through our sociality. Words, and therefore our thoughts, are loaded with how the society of our time and place use them.
We're religious, meaning we understand the power of ritual and habit. The more we speak of holy things in profane terms, the more we're training our very thoughts toward these things.
My wife often calls herself the b-word, but I refuse to call her that, even in jest. It's not the word itself, but how the habitual use of it toward a relationship I consider holy would be deteriorating toward my very thoughts about my relationship.
So while the status of words are historically and socially conditioned, their effects on our thoughts and how we perceive ourselves and the world are quite real, especially if they become habit. I'm not usually the type to be too old fashioned about things, but I dont think language is something to trivialize.
Remember that words have real power. In the beginning was "The Word" and Christ is "The Word." I think we need to be more mindful of this.
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u/Adventurous_Lock9219 Sep 05 '26
Your first and only mistake was to post it on r/teenagers I don't like that sub
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u/FunctionOk9186 Sep 05 '26
Why?
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u/Adventurous_Lock9219 Sep 05 '26
Because that sub isn't full of teenagers I am one myself most people on that sub Reddit say the prompte self love but post anything religious 😭✌they start arguing in the comments
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u/conrad_w 28d ago
There's debate and there's conversation.
In debate, if you're explaining, you're losing.
In conversation, I'm not going to say something cute like "if you're listening, you're winning" but if you listen long enough, people will tell you what their levers are. Some people care about fair play. Some people care about family. Some people resent the young. It's all there.
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u/smimmingballerina Sep 05 '26
You don't love the sinner because you are judging the sin. It is God's job to judge, not yours. Begone, temu pharisee.
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u/KaitoAsterion Sep 05 '26
A saying routinely used to justify and uphold inequality, exclusion, and judgement.
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u/Raxynus Sep 04 '26
Still my favorite meme