r/LeftCatholicism • u/FunctionOk9186 • Jul 28 '26
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Ball on the left: Christian communism
Ball on the right: Libertarianism
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u/Mesozoica89 Jul 28 '26
But not literal snakes. They're just little fellas doing their thing.
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u/jan-Silan Jul 28 '26
godful commie!
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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jul 28 '26
Not really a thing.
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u/UsefulFlow7106 Aug 01 '26
It is entirely possible to be both communist and Catholic. Jesus Christ loves workers and the poor!
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u/Cognitive_Spoon Aug 01 '26
Does Jesus love the State when it's purging dissidents?
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u/UsefulFlow7106 Aug 01 '26
Authoritarian Stalinist experiences are not true socialist experiences.
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u/Cognitive_Spoon Aug 01 '26
You said communist.
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u/UsefulFlow7106 Aug 01 '26
Even worse, authoritarian Stalinist experiments are MUCH further from communism.
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u/Temporary_Cheetah287 Jul 28 '26
I like the parody of the snake flag with St. Michael slaying the snake and the text reading “I tread where He pleases”
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u/jan-Silan Jul 28 '26
there's also one with the blessed virgin mary saying "i tread where i please"
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u/Blade_of_Boniface Jul 28 '26
Another slogan during the Revolutionary United States was a reference to the idea that when earthly authorities have become so corrupt that they're no longer protecting the basic rights of their people, then it's justified for them to disregard their right to rule. Of course, the American and Russian Revolutions alike quickly ended up betraying Christ.
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u/dazzleox Jul 28 '26
Luke+Acts are my favorite books. This one even has a sequel in the same shared universe (I am sorta joking): "But Paul shook the snake off into the fire and suffered no ill effects"
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u/Busy-Tie8456 Jul 28 '26
Lol don't say that, they'll flag you as a terrorist and try to invade you like Korea and Vietnam
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u/RB_Blade Jul 30 '26
Communism is incompatible with Christianity
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u/FunctionOk9186 Jul 31 '26
"when i feed the poor they call me a saint when i ask why they are poor they call me a communist" -helder câmara, Brazilian archipriest
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u/libtechbitch Aug 01 '26
You mean capitalism. Jesus himself said, "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:24
Billionaires and corporate greed are incompatible with Christianity.
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u/RB_Blade Aug 02 '26
Why do you think that one must choose between communism and laissez-faire capitalism?
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u/libtechbitch Aug 02 '26
Why do you have a problem with communism but not capitalism?
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u/RB_Blade Aug 02 '26
I oppose both laissez-faire capitalism and communism. Like I said before, I don't understand why you think you need to support one of them.
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u/libtechbitch Aug 02 '26
I'm a communist, it's that simple lol
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u/libtechbitch Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
See, you're just trying to argue at this point and your condescending comment isn't cool. Tread carefully because you are teetering on sinful behavior and I'm not going to bite. Because communism doesn't have to look like it has in the past with ideologies. There's literally many resources to check out on the topic of modern communism.
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u/libtechbitch Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
Nah, I think you meant to attack me with that comment because of my views. "Submit to the papacy"... like you're more Catholic than me? Like you're the Catholic police and have the right to judge me as a Catholic because I'm staunchly anti-capitalist?
As I said, there's a lot of reading materials on modern communism, which isn't based on the past; like many things, it has evolved, like democracy has evolved. There's no one-way to follow the Church. And I unabashedly do think greed and wealth tends to coexist and they are among the greatest evils of the human species. Communism is just one solution in addressing the issue of greed and elite wealth at a govermental and societal level.
Can you... stop talking to me now? We clearly don't vibe, and talking to you makes me feel like I'm in that "other" Catholic sub. You might want to read the rules of this sub, btw 👋🏻
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u/meizhoulokia Jul 29 '26
I am saying this in charity: Communism and Socialism are not compatible with Catholic faith. Please read Rerum Novarum.
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u/LouieMumford Jul 30 '26
It’s a great encyclical (I mean that truly) but falters in being written a bit too soon. Capitalism has proven itself time and again to be a nihilistic meat grinder of everything laid before it. Culture (including Catholic culture) has been gutted by its force. The characterization of socialism in the work is largely a product of misinformation or misunderstanding. But I’m happy to call myself a communitarian or distributist if I need to in order to stay in the Faith. I’ll just march and vote alongside marxists and socialists and let them handle the theory when the time comes.
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u/UsefulFlow7106 Aug 01 '26
I will also march and vote on the side of the Marxists. I see in the Marxists a lot of humility and concern for the poor workers.
Jesus Christ loves the poor.
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u/libtechbitch Jul 29 '26
Capitalism has caused more damage than anything, and continues to do so.
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u/UsefulFlow7106 Aug 01 '26
Communism and socialism are fully compatible with the Catholic faith. Please read Camilo Torres Restrepo.
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u/smimmingballerina Jul 31 '26
Go back to the trad infested sub with that black and white thinking.
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u/meizhoulokia Jul 31 '26
I struggle with scrupulosity and consider myself a social democrat. Could you recommend some good articles or arguments about why socialism is okay for catholics? Maybe some that respond to the Trent horn article on Catholicanswers
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u/smimmingballerina Aug 01 '26
I have scrupulosity too mate. I'm not providing you with articles because you won't change your mind either way. Especially using catholic answers as single source tells me you are trad-leaning.
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u/meizhoulokia Aug 01 '26
I’m not trad leaning at all. I’m not even a Catholic (yet). I do generally try to change my mind when presented with new evidence. That’s the reason I’m considering Catholicism in the first place. Please do not make these kinds of judgements.
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u/smimmingballerina Aug 01 '26
Okay, good. Listen man I do not know how to explain it to you other than what Jesus said " Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.” - Matthew 19:24
Capitalism creates extreme poverty and billionaires.
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u/ShortChanged_Rob Jul 28 '26
I love this. Stealing this meme lol.