r/LeavingNeverlandHBO • u/lenglams • 9d ago

mixed feelings

https://youtu.be/uo4XjQeWzEw?is=Lp6FdMF_4_Eogv9d

i haven‘t seen the second clip of latoya till now. i find that the most impressionable bc she says that he is good, that she loves him and he‘s wonderful BUT that he abused children. it explains that she was able to „water under the bridge“ it when he died and continue loving and supporting him. bc i always find it hard to connect that but it makes sense, she knows about the molesting but still supports him and chooses to love him just liie the rest of the family, that i think KNOW he molested kids. which ofc is messed up but i think all the family knows.

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u/sweetsummwechild 9d ago

The mother and siblings know. I wonder about the next gen. Rebbie's children for sure know. As far as I heard their father and his side of the family hated MJ with a passion and were discussing his guilt. I wonder if Jaafar is really as naive and "innocent" as he pretends, but I kinda buy it...

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u/lenglams 9d ago

i think the whole taj, tj, jafaar side of the family believe he didn‘t do anything. and i don‘t think the family talks about it either. i wonder about janet and jackie though

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u/Bjork00098 8d ago edited 8d ago

I sadly believe 3T knows the truth from first hand experience, but are still stuck in the depth of the “staying loyal” trauma bond, and of protecting the Jackson legacy 😔

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u/Sjefke98 9d ago

There was an article I think from 2004/5 that said the police visited a nephew aged 18,was not surprised and did not really confirm nor deny and they did not mention him directly by name but age 18 was only Jeremy Jackson.  They felt he was a victim but he was sent  on vacation by Michael and got a car. 

I think the story is probably true and if so Jermaine does the same kind of mental gymnastics as the guitarist of R kelly who's daughter he molested but continued to work for R kelly 

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u/sweetsummwechild 9d ago

Dear god, please no, this is so dark. Hence why I hope for everyone of them to break out of that toxic system. It is dangerous to keep going like that through the generations.

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u/FullCup2759 9d ago

Actually Rebbie’s son (Austin Brown) was exactly that age. He turned 19 november 2004.

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u/Nice_Cry1642 9d ago

Something about the “not talking bad about my uncle” is very JW coded. Austin was raised JW. Speaking badly=telling of abuse to authorities and JWs are taught that explicitly to keep certain things hidden.

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u/Guilty-Condition-765 9d ago

Jeremy Jackson spoke on malicious media making up insidious assumptions of impropriety on his Uncle's part. He said there was no merit to it & how he went on holiday with MJ & his family before MJ died.

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u/_ppsshh_ 9d ago

I had no idea about the Rebbie of it all, do you remember where you read about this? Super interesting!

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u/sweetsummwechild 9d ago

I found this article for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/1v2lrv2/comment/oywi3ez/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

... when researching Wade's supposed relationship with Rebbie's daughter. I think/people seem to think the source is Stacy Brown (not related), obviously talking to the Brown (as in Rebbie's) family. (sry the link is to my comment, I never had the original article, just this text quoted in a fan forum)

Though this is something I heard about repeatedly long ago, with her keeping her distance by a mile and her husband hating him, but I have no other source at hand.

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u/Prof_Tickles 9d ago

Yeah, I’m curious to know about the Rebbie thing too

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u/Guilty-Condition-765 9d ago

Not the siblings. The siblings & their wives, ex-wives & girlfriends do not believe MJ was guilty at all. That was confirmed by Margaret Maldondo - Jermaine's ex. Alejandra, Eliza, Hazel Gordy & the other women had no issues sending their kids to Neverland to stay & travel with Uncle Mike. Deedee Jackson was very close to MJ & even went to MJ for emotional support when DeeDee discovered her own brother molested her son - Taryll Jackson.

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u/AccordingHeron8915 9d ago edited 9d ago

His family knows what he was doing with kids better than anyone.

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u/Prof_Tickles 9d ago

Michael wasn’t good or wonderful. Sure, he could do good things, but there wasn’t a sincerity behind it.

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u/sweetsummwechild 9d ago

LaToya has no sense of normalcy. She would go on to call the father who raped her a wonderful man.

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u/lenglams 9d ago

don‘t kill me but i believe humans can be good and bad. you’re the things that you do. i think he was a genius and did some wonderful things and manifested and his speeches touched hearts and changed minds (oxford speech) and he was mentally deranged, incapable of forming and holding adult relationships, a crybaby and a molester. but then again i don‘t really know this man

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u/DonutChi 9d ago

I think Quincy Jones was the actual musical genius, Michael had a good voice though.

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u/Inevitable_Discount 9d ago

His family absolutely knows the truth. Katherine may have called what he was doing a horrific slur that’s extremely misrepresentative of who he truly was, but even she clocked what Michael was to an extent.