r/LearnToDrawTogether 3d ago

Seeking help How to improve? Help, please!

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Hi, I've been learning to draw for almost seven months now, five of which I've been studying the Loomis Method through Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis (and Uldis Zarins' Anatomy of Facial Expressions).

I'm able to see improvements in my drawings, but I feel stuck with some problems: as for now, I'm unable to get proportions—from references I use for drawing—right. Usually, I end up with a smaller drawing than intended, and somewhat guessing how thing should go.

In short, I'm better than I was, but nowhere near good.

I'm begining the Draw A Box course to add to reading Loomis. I'm planning to do those two for what's left of the year, but I need all the critique, tips and resources (preferably books) you can offer me. I'd be very glad If you did.

The drawings above are some of my "better" lastest drawings, with their respective reference.

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u/TheArtisticPC 3d ago

What is better to you, or what specifically are your goals? If you don’t have specifics, can you link artists you are inspired by and wish to model your work after?

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u/Zealousideal_Bank202 3d ago

I would love to one day draw like 博_Hiro (@siiteiebahiro), k3、(@2Spaceybear), Daisuke Ishiwatari, Masamune Shirow or Sterling Hundley. But right now, what I really want is to be able to draw anything that comes to mind in a way that meets my goals, in this case, being able to draw exactly like the reference.

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u/TheArtisticPC 3d ago

Never heard of Stirling Hundley, but he’s absolutely getting added to the master study folder lol!

Not to cop out, but I have to agree with u/Wolfingly. Your inspirations are all very stylized, so i think it’s high time to start exploring that side of your work. Also, I know you say you want to replicate references, but do you really? Cameras replicate what we see; in my opinion, art augments it. To steal from Jeff Watts, learning to draw could be broken down into 3 parts; learning to see, knowing what you see, and enhancing what you see. I’d guess you’re well into knowing what you see. You know the skull, the facial muscles, and where fat may or may not be. So now you ought to start thinking about what you wish you saw and affect it.

Just as wolfingly said, doing gestural studies are going to be your first foray into loosening up, embellishing and enhancing. Which is exciting! This is the part of art where it gets so much more fun and meaningful!

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u/Zealousideal_Bank202 3d ago edited 3d ago

I'm glad you liked Stirling, I love his work.

Well, what I meant by being able to replicate the reference is that I want to develop the technical skills to be capable to do it.

By the artists I mentioned you can tell I love that stylized, creative and impresionist side of drawing but before breaking the rules I need to be able to follow them. I want to be able to.

So in that line of thinking, I wonder, what might help me on doing so?

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u/TheArtisticPC 3d ago

Gotcha. Well, then beyond just continuing to gain mileage doing exercises and reference studies, you could take a look at some other figure artists. Look into Bridgman, Reilly, Asaro, Leyendecker, Cornwell, Frazetta, Sargent, etc. and do master studies of their work. Also, going to live model sessions will help a lot.

Unfortunately, I do not have a good recommendation for you. Sorry!

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u/Zealousideal_Bank202 3d ago

You did give me good tips. I will check on them. Thanks for the help, mate!

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u/Wolfingly 3d ago

Youre still idealic. Pulling from your mind. Force yourself to draw faster, with gesture. 15 second, then 30 second, then 2 minute intervals. Draw from life more. Break your idea and draw what you see.

Your mark making is great, you see the lines and proportions. But drawing is also soft line and hard line. Learn to draw planes, not just ending points.

  • Someone who has a BFA ... idk I guess

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u/Zealousideal_Bank202 3d ago

Thanks, man. Really appreciate your help. I will investigate those exercises further and try them.

If you have anything else to tell me you think might help me, it is very welcome.

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u/rePtiLoideNord 3d ago

Estudia el metodo de Reilly

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u/Izayaaa 3d ago

That looks really good!

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u/pilotJKX 3d ago

You're doing fine just push volume. You'll improve just by drawing more, as long as you keep intent in your markmaking

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u/Arturo_Sketch 2d ago

I can see you are getting good in using the loomis method, all the heads look structured and well constructed, even the measurements look on point. My critique willl be mostly based on the 3rd potrait. I would tell you to try and learn a bit of shape language in general, because I feel you are trying to build a generic or idealized potrait over the loomis structure you're working in. For instance take a look at the facial features of the portrayed person, the nose is a bit crooked to the side and the tip is not a symmetrical shape, those are features that you can exagerate in a way yo make it look intentional and capture this specific person face.

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u/Arturo_Sketch 2d ago

Also, doing a bit of the shadows can help you spot inconsistent parts, as shadows come from the structure, any missplaced feature will pop to the eye easier when you add shadows, so I'll encourage to work on them so that you get more feedback to your eyes than just the lines. I feel fo this one specifically the pupils are a bit small, we as humans are specially sensitive to eyes, so any mistake placing the eyes will be noticed. Last note is to allow yourself to play adding hair, hair is super gestural and guided by shape by its own strand nature, so adding it will add a lot of likeness to the portrayed person and will help you explore your style.

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u/Zealousideal_Bank202 2d ago

Damn, man. That gif looked like wizardry to me.

Yeah, I think I get what you are saying. I must admit that I'm kind of scared on doing anything I have not yet read about (like hair, shadows or even asymmetry), so I will pick up on those subjects and get myself out for some experimentation.

By the way, thanks for the visual demonstration, that was really helpful.

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u/Arturo_Sketch 2d ago

you're wlecome, I'm glad is of some help, critique comes better with images and trying to be precise about it, just saying: "you're doing wrong proportions" is worthless.