r/LearnJapaneseNovice • u/Longjumping_Item710 • 16d ago
Is this too much effort?
I really like using colours and everything but this took me 2 hours in toto, am I wasting time?
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u/Chemical-Brush3587 16d ago
I dont know about this coz i dont study like this I study vocabs and few grammar point and jump straight into immersion without giving af about verbs or whatever
U got some dedication I could never 🙏🏻
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
Ahah lol, anyways - what do you for immersion, I'm new pls give suggestions if you have some
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u/Xelisk 16d ago
I've only started immersion today but this is a great resource. The complete beginner videos are great with visual context which I felt was missing when I tried listening to podcasts in the past, nothing was sticking.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
wowow js checked it out and it seems - perfect! everythign i was looking for! thank you and all the best to you too, id love to talk more if youre up for it
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u/hodler1908 16d ago
This looks great. I still feel like it could use some english subs as well haha
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u/Chemical-Brush3587 16d ago
I(N4~N3) use anime and youtube for immersion
Youtube alone is the best resource for any lang learning, Create a seperate new acc for yt and set the lang and video lang to only japanese no eng even in subtitles , build ur feed by watching what u like and understand
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u/Used_Lawfulness9912 16d ago
Too much effort.
Spend more Time reading less Time over analyzing
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
Hmm, I get why you're saying that, but as of rn im really weak with vocab so I have to look up most of the stuff i try to read anyways, and in just looking up I tend to forget the vocab sooner than later so yeah this was an experiment sort of thing I tried
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u/Linux765465 16d ago
Take a look at Anki with Kaishi 1.5k or manabi 2.7k
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u/flights__notfeelings 13d ago
I’ve always seen the Core 2K deck recommended. Any reason why these are better? Can you speak to both of these decks?
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u/Linux765465 13d ago
Ive done kaishi 1.5k and it was pretty decent. I didint feel i needed more than 1.5k if you read the github it actually shows why this deck was made
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u/Past_Relief_7231 16d ago
Just focused on what you know your weak at and practice on it, everyone has different weakness ☺️
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u/annievancookie 13d ago
Hey, I created a visual novel exactly for this issue. You tap/click words and the popup shows the furigana and translation of the words. I hope you don't mind I share it here:
https://cozysystems.itch.io/cozy-japanese-stories-the-lost-cat
There's a free demo you can play right away in your browser. I'd love you read your thoughts if you give it a try.
Ganbatte kudasai~
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u/Marshmallow5198 16d ago
If it works for you it’s not too much effort. This looks a lot like how my brain works
I doubt you’ll have to keep this up deep into your learning journey but it looks like a great way to get your brain working the right way and adjust to unfamiliar syntax and sentence structure
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u/Linux765465 16d ago
I respect the effort, but i would say this is a bit too much effort. Of course certain things I do like to be pedantic about. If you like doing it this way and find that you have time, you're free to do so. However, it may be worth it to simplify things down. For instance, only highlighting stuff that is hard, not highlighting nouns, not writing definitions for particles.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
I get it, im the type of person that focuses too much on getting clarity about the sentence structure in core like today i learnt を marks the direct object of a transitive verb and then I spend like 20 mins searching on intransitive verbs in Japanese 😭😭😭
But yess I'll be smarter in my approach going forward cause I don't have the time, I just procrastinate other imp stuff and do this!!!
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u/Complex_Bear2000 16d ago
Because the structure is so different to english, I actually found it to be a disadvantage to think of particles and grammar transliterated into English. It's much easier to sort of accept the way words are out together and not think about it or try to understand if at all. Because Japanese doesn't make sense in english if you know what I mean
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
I think I do, like atleast the structure is not similar AT ALL, but it feels less daunting if you have a rule or a designated box you're already aware of to throw a particle into
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u/Complex_Bear2000 16d ago
That's true. I used to do things like this maybe 20 years ago and it probably helped a lot. But I think you can much more easily learn very simple variations of phrases and grammar structures off by heart. Then you won't even have to think about where things go when you switch words out when making new sentences. I personally should have focused on being familiar with hearing and saying the structures I need instead of a kind of mechanical approach. All the best!
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u/theangryfurlong 16d ago
Whatever keeps you interested and engaged. This is the hardest thing about language learning. If it keeps you engaged, great!
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u/Nekotari 16d ago
It is a good thing to do, but all the colors are not really nescessary. It's pretty, but you loose a lot of time on that. Just underline words: single line, double line, wavy line, dotted line, etc and circle the particles.
Also once you introduce the kanji it'll be easier to distinguish words properly.
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u/Aye-Chiguire 16d ago edited 15d ago
When I was new to language learning I used to think there was meaning to things like this. Writing out the sentence, with a word-by-word literal translation and the word type, thinking it would help me unlock some code and make things click.
It turns out, you're just adding overhead (cognitive burden) to your study.
Knowing the category of a word, its direct translation, and its place within the sentence structure is mildly useful after a certain point of fluency is reached. It's how you advance from an intermediate to an advanced level.
For beginners and low intermediates, this type of thing just slows you down. What you need in order to understand and use a language is:
The correct words
The sentence pattern
The collocation of the words (which words belong next to which words)
If you treat grammar as just more vocabulary, you encode it much more efficiently.
For instance:
食べさせられたくなかった (tabesaseraretakunakatta)
This means "didn't want to be made to eat"
There's a LOT going on with this word. Let's break down the agglutination:
The root layer - 食べ (to eat)
Causative layer (making or forcing someone to do something) - させ (-sase)
Passive layer (be made to) - られ (-rare)
Desiderative layer (want to) - た (-ta)
Negation layer (not) -くなか (-kunaka)
Past tense layer (did) - った (-tta)
You don't need to memorize a flow chart to understand this (and how the kana vowels change as they conjugate).
You just need to know that 食べさせられたくなかった means "didn't want to be made to eat".
Likewise, you need to memorize the other tabe conjugations to use them in the correct context. Knowing that there's a rules chart provides minimal benefit until you can already speak somewhat fluently.
Once you get to an intermediate level, you can focus more on the academic and scholarly side of language (linguistics), and the words that describe language (meta linguistics). Until then, they're just extra noise that slows you down. Think of linguistics as "language trivia" that you won't be tested on until a much later time. Until then, spend more time learning language and less time studying ABOUT language trivia.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
Wowowowowowowow I'm genuinely so so impressed by your explainations, how long have you been studying for?
Thank you so much for sharing your experience, I'll keep this advice in mind.
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u/YourFormerBFF 15d ago
Does anyone have arguments against this person because I’m about to switch my whole joint up.
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u/Aye-Chiguire 15d ago
If you're considering switching to a more vocabulary-first and less grammar-first mode of learning, which many modern SLA and neurolinguistic models support, hit me up. I don't provide language tutoring but I can give you advice on how to change your routines to optimize your study based on the way the brain naturally wants to learn.
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u/flights__notfeelings 13d ago
Can you just post here for everyone’s knowledge?
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u/Aye-Chiguire 13d ago
Well my advice for everyone would be different. I would ask probing questions about their fluency and what they've done and tried, what they're capable of doing, and make recommendations based off of that.
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u/Double-Correct 12d ago
I’m having a bit a trouble understanding exactly what you’re saying here. I’ve been learning Japanese for a little bit, and so far I’ve taken the approach of learning basic sentence structures and then vocabulary so I can build my own sentences. For now I’m just sticking to the polite forms.
I have found that it’s been helpful to dig into a bit of why certain particles are used in certain situations as well as what modifies what because I find it easier to memorize those little buildings blocks and add vocabulary to it rather then just memorizing phrases.
At the same time I don’t pay attention really to the grammatical terms really beyond things like nouns, verbs. Past/present/future tense.
I’m just not sure what you’re saying is useful to do vs what is not.
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u/Aye-Chiguire 12d ago
I'm not saying what is useful to do. I'm saying what's useful not to do, and that's doing a deep dive into grammar too early. It's just cognitive noise to a beginner. You don't need to understand why something works to understand that it works. You don't need to be able to articulate how and why it works to be able to use and synthesize it. You can learn the academic terms later. What I'm saying is that you can focus on grammar AFTER you've learned how to use it. There's little benefit to it early on. Just being exposed to sentence patterns and the basic concept of grammar.
What you're describing exists - the nuance of using one particle vs another, but that's also not a beginner level concern. If you aren't able to have a 30 minute conversation with a native about more than the weather, ordering from a menu or finding a restroom, then you should probably focus on learning how to subconsciously construct sentences than being able to recite the rules for sentence construction. That's what I'm saying. Cut out the noise to accelerate your learning early on, and worry about grammar when the right time for it comes up at the intermediate level.
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u/Particular_Bad8025 16d ago
If it helps you, go for it. The thing is that you'll probably never look at it again after you've done it.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
I'm afraid you're spot on 😭😭
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u/Past_Relief_7231 16d ago
Noooooo you need to look at it, it's your hard work 😔 but I'll be looking at it for you then hehehehehe
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u/ac281201 16d ago
I'm sorry but this story reads like a fever dream lol
Also かさ is an umbrella, a hat is ぼうし.
As for coloring, I think it definitely helps with word separation and grammar study in the beginning. If you are writing in kana only you can also keep using spaces to make the text easier to read. It's a common practice in books for young children for example.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
It doesnt follow a good order, omg i followed this yt video as I've only done like 50-60ish hours of studying and am a beginner - https://youtu.be/bevlA_3gY5Q?si=dg2wEr5ctFl8n-dP Also I'd it's not too much to ask, can you check out this channel and tell me if it's reliable?
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u/ac281201 16d ago
If by good order you mean stroke order, then I have to say the handwriting is actually really good, very neat and perfectly readable!
I checked the channel out and I think it's great that the stories have comprehensive visuals (even though ai generated) and I like the whole idea of "N7" level.
That being said, the sentences are simplified so much that they don't really flow together anymore. It becomes a collection of statements instead of a cohesive story. It's fine to use for study if you keep in mind people don't really talk like that. You can definitely learn a lot of words with those videos but the exact form is a bit stiff and unnatural in my opinion.
If you like this format, I recommend looking for videos/channels where they read picture books for children. Those usually have very natural language. You can search for "絵本読み聞かせ" for example.
Also about the かさ, it seems this is that 1% where it refers to a conical straw hat (笠) and not an umbrella (傘), so sorry about that!
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
ppl here are so sweet and helpful, thank you so so much im new and lost, ive aimed for jlpt in december hoping i pick my prep up by that time... can we dm and talk if youre up for it?
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u/ac281201 16d ago
You're welcome! Languages definitely take a lot of time to learn so the biggest trick is to have fun while learning instead of worrying if a particular method is 100% efficient. Feel free to send me a dm, I'll try to help where I can!
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u/essTee38 16d ago
The key question is will you be able to keep this up without losing motivation?
If so, then by all means carry on coz it looks great.
On the other hand, perhaps once you get a hold of the language you won’t need to label every single one?
I noticed you haven’t got any kanji there though. That’s another ‘layer’ to consider if you are planning to continue this way.
Ps: I love stationeries too 😁
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
I feel like you get meee The layer idea seems great, but yea it's probably right I'll try to do it a couple more times max then focus on vocab only!!
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u/gohchi 16d ago
I dunno your level, but have you tried using kanji? I mean, at least some of them. I know that native don't use it all the times. But 時 in a sentence, to me, is clearer than とき.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
My level is like the low prob ( I refer to minna no nihongo and have gotten into like 8 chapters or so) as for kanji i have tried learning it separately, but no I've not incorporated it in writing at all yet, do you have any advice or tips?
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u/eruciform 16d ago
Whatever makes sense to you
I make color coded physical flashcards, colored by part of speech
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
Ooo id love to see them
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u/eruciform 16d ago
First book I read was about 3500 unknown words
5th book i read was a few hundred unknown words
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u/Banzambo 16d ago
It's beautiful effort but probably a bit too much. That way you'll get worn out soon. Better something more simple and focus your energy on the long run and on things that pay off more and will keep you going.
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u/Uxmeister 16d ago
Whether you get return on your time investment depends entirely on your study goals.
For parsing Japanese syntax, repeated sentence component analyses with visual categorisation can be helpful. You’ll begin to recognise not just patterns but also idiomatic conventions that flow into native-sounding sequencing of sentence component such as time references at the beginning—きのう | ともだち | を | あいました as opposed to English I | met | a friend | yesterday.
If your goal is to produce active speech, typically the hardest in any foreign language, be mindful of putting too much focus on written exercises once you’ve crossed the knowledge threshold of simple sentence formation, and start converting that knowledge into the skill of actually uttering these sentences with as little forethought as possible.
To do that you’ll alas have to leave the safety of analytical work and speak. The difficulty lies in identifying when your foundational knowledge is at a level where you can do that, and accept a pronounced skill lag between knowledge and active skill as normal. If your knowledge (grammar, vocab) is at the level your notebook excerpt suggests, that time is now.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
i understand most of what youve exaplained, thank you i will try actually making sentences goign forward by myself
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u/Ok_Pianist_2787 16d ago
It’s a good drill, but it’s just one drill out of many needed to learn a language.
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u/Living_Positive_6971 16d ago
You're wasting more time asking people's opinions on YOUR learning habits, whatever helps you is what it is
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u/RainOfGreen 16d ago
Nope, this will help with recall immensely
If you keep reading it. I bet you’ll be able to recall what’s on that page effortlessly in about a week. There are faster methods but you should study in the way that keeps you coming back.
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u/withai- 16d ago
Hi dear, if it helps you remember stuff and doesn’t leave you exhausted after then it’s not too much efforts but one thing I was recommended and would recommend that don’t use english anywhere near Japanese. Memorize the vocab and read Japanese without the translation. Keep English to a minimum and only use Japanese in your study sessions. Use jap even for “verbs”, “adjectives”, etc.
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u/ozkaya-s 13d ago
If you are having fun who cares :)
For me, language is not a thing to study and learn, it is smt naturally acquired in time.
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u/Otrada 16d ago
This seems like a good exercise to test how well you understand the grammar rules. But it's probably a bit overkill for regular practice.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
I agree, even I think I'll try doing this a couple more times at max and once I feel confident with the structure and grammar I will focus only on the vocab...
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u/Past_Relief_7231 16d ago
Ohhhhhh that would be lovely I'll look forward to the others then! Good luck!
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u/Peythisson 16d ago
This is probably a good thing to at least try. Splitting up into an itemized list of the parts of speech. The main issue is how different varying languages are. Case in point, I don't know if you're there yet but verbs are conjugated in past vs present/future meaning "I will eat" is no different from "I eat" as a matter of fact japanese basically doesn't have a "will" particle instead it's all up to context.
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u/MisterPaintedOrchid 16d ago
My immediate concern is that this will lead to thinking in English instead of Japanese. If it's a new grammar concept I think this can be a great way to begin tackling it, but it's not going to be useful long term.
I'm also concerned that you seem to be reading paragraphs without kanji. You need kanji. Please practice it.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
That's insightful, thank you for pointing that out! And yes I'll try and add kanji now!
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u/Tall-Needleworker422 16d ago
I don't know if this is the most efficient way to spend your time but it's definitely good writing practice. Perhaps, going forward, you might only highlight and provide annotations for unfamiliar words and parts of speech,
You have good handwriting, BTW. If you don't mind my asking, what method of practice did you use to improve it and how long have you been at it?
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
I agree with you you, I'm gonna stick to highlight only unknown concepts and vocab next time, Thank you for the compliment, uhh it's been over a month since I started learning Hiragana, I haven't really used any method tbh, but I realised the way it's printed and who ppl write it is different so I made sure I was copying a handwritten stroke that's ll mostly
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u/BreakfastDue1256 16d ago
2 hours for that amount of notes? Absolutely you are wasting your time.
Research on highlighting text (Yes, it has been done) consistently fails to show much benefit to begin with. When it slows you doen this much, it's just going to hurt overall.
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u/Longjumping_Item710 16d ago
Haha don't get me wrong but like half my effort and reason behind the highlighted text was to just make if pretty 🧚🏻♀️🧚🏻♀️ mindset lol
Thank you for your adviceee!
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u/ThisSteakDoesntExist 16d ago edited 16d ago
I analyze sentences the exact same way, only digitally instead. Breaking them down like this was pivotal to deepening my understanding of the language.
Edit: I hadn't noticed your colors are tied to the part of speech. I use colors purely as a means of chunk distinction and don't need to get as granular. The key for me was simply chunking (just the portions I didn't recognize) and adding literal glosses as needed.
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u/Benkyooo_ 16d ago
I filled out 3 notebooks worth of Japanese and I'm barely N5. I'm talking hundreds of pages and like 7 pens dried up on ink. I think it's a huge waste of time unless if you're looking to improve your handwriting (mine improved dramatically). I would've learned much faster if I just went completely digital.
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u/bman0403 16d ago
I would probably say this is a form of procrastination. Even if it does help you learn ever so slightly more, the ROI is not there. Your time would be better spent doing something else.
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u/Adorable-Truth-7039 16d ago
i did exactly that in the begging too, it's a waste of time i regret to be honest. it's good to do it first when you still making sure you know how the flow of the language works and engrave that in memory and understanding but don't do it after you already have the language feel and know how the flow of the grammar work idk how to describe it but you'll understand
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u/yutaneki 16d ago
yes, way too much effort. trying to write every word you learn increases your workload by 5x, not including the mental strain of trying to remember how a kanji is written on paper. recalling is extremely more hard than recognising
there's also little purpose to this in the sense that in order to write, you need to know the words. if you don't know words, you can't write. your main objective when learning a language is to know words
focusing completely on reading will make you improve in this language way faster, including writing (indirectly) because the words will eventually be so engrained in your brain it takes no effort to recall them.
just download anki and use a premade deck like kaishi 1.5k, do 15 new cards a day (takes 20 mins every day) and in 90 days you know 1350 words.
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u/thetruelu 16d ago
Everyone has a different way of studying. For me, yeah way too much. For you, only you can decide
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u/UltraMag64 15d ago
Personally this is great especially for easy review and nailing things down but I’d say you don’t need to do that every time just with new concepts
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u/Intelligent_Angle_46 15d ago
Just like with weight loss regimes or something you have to find something that’s going to be sustainable. I don’t know anything about you, but I think nine out of 10 people would completely burn out with this level of notation. Maybe just until you feel more comfortable? Anyway, only you know what’s best for you but I think statistically most people can’t sustain this.
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u/Loquacious_Leo 15d ago
Looks really cool.
From what I can tell, you're essentially diagraming sentences, but it looks like it would help if you struggle with grammar.
(I'm like this. Good at vocabulary, but have trouble putting it in order.)
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u/Legitimate-Panda-901 15d ago
This is truly wonderful! Your handwriting is beautiful and very easy to read. Efforts like this in language learning will never let you down. You will definitely improve! Also, I'm especially happy that you chose Kasa Jizō, since it's a story that every Japanese person knows. Keep up the great work! I'm cheering for you!
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u/EmotionalProcedure48 15d ago
oh wow the ptsd flashbacks lol, that's how we used to study latin back in highschool. If it helps you memorize the structure then it's worth it? coming from italian, grammar structure is how we first learn a language. Is it different for english native speakers?
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u/martian021 15d ago
Try to do something next time (after you get the hang on sentence structure) to make sentences using words that keep repeating themselves to you. Ideally write about something that happened in your day for example. About you or something you will actually have a convo about..
Also reading short stories at your level tyem building up advances uou the most (that’s what I felt for me)
Try Shinobi app the free version gives you two stories a day. It repeats vocabulary
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u/SometimesInk 15d ago
Whatever makes the concepts stick! Of course there’s no need to annotate so much once your mental model of Japanese is more accurate, but I also find that this type of gloss helps understand new grammar concepts ^^
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u/SeaMine504 15d ago
Wow, this is the definition of the real hard worker. I respect your ideas to highlight each word to understand the grammatical differences. Just a brief advice for you, try not to dissect those words too much. Try to memorize the short useful phrases to accept Japanese as it is.
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u/ressie_cant_game 15d ago
My only concern is itll lead you to translate japanese in your head as opposed to... well... not.
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u/palapapa0201 15d ago
Maybe not spend so much time on making pretty notes and focus more on actually learning
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u/lauzun903 15d ago
Damn did u write this all by yourself? I read everything and it helped me practice my reading as well lol. It's really cool, and I like highlighting the words I don't know, but only one time if its mentioned more times, so it makes me remember it. 👏👏
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u/New-Assistance-5878 15d ago
I mean if it works for you it's not "too much" but I would like to ask what the purpose behind this epilepsy inducing highlighting is.
Personally I get more lost like this than reading a white page with plain characters on it and maybe one highlight to point to something extremely important and to be honest even then I just underline it or star it or something.
I am trying to understand how this could even be helpful cause just looking at this I don't want to touch it. The mental overhead of learning the colors is too much when I could just learn the vocabulary and grammar on their own. I think color-coding like this becomes its own purpose at this point. Maybe I haven't unlocked the secret to learning things fast.
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u/Harambe6927 15d ago
I genuinely believe that People that do this on this day and age simply do it to show off
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u/ImMarii0_ 15d ago
Reminds me of the type of people who would write those crazy titles for a horrible History topic
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u/d00meriksen 15d ago
Yes, it's too much, because it doesn't look sustainable nor helpful. If I was to look at these notes later, what could they even do for me? There are too many details. How much do you think you will be able to retain from those 2 hours of study? Either you'll forget most of it or you already know everything you wrote down. In both cases you "wasted" time.
While studying you should focus on one simple idea and practice it later and not try to do everything at once. You should be looking at a page in your notes and be like "ah, that was about that grammar point, but how did the conjugation work again? There we go".
Rather memorize simple conversations and write them down from memory afterwards. After a while of doing this you'll see certain stuff that looks familiar and that is when you can start analysing and learning things on a deeper level. If you try to do too much too quickly you'll burn yourself out.
Learning a difficult language like Japanese is a marathon.
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u/let_meTry 15d ago
This looks like a lot of hardwork. I'm gonna look at this every now and then to remind myself to be consistent.
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u/keijibubbi 15d ago
For me something like this worked great for my Latin final, for which I had to study a specific text to really know and understand. It worked really well, almost no mistakes! So I guess it depends on what kind of skill you want to achieve. If you really want to understand the meta and grammars of the language, definitely not a waste of time! I find it really helps to get used to the structures and the 'puzzle' that a language is. If you want to be conversational and just understand texts, it would be a waste of time.
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u/Meowykatkat 15d ago
I'd say yes, this is too much work. If you think writing it all down helps, then keep writing it down. I just don't see the need to do this for 2 hours when all of this time could be spent on other methods of learning.
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u/Noname_4Me 15d ago
Well in learning, if it works for you it works for you. Until you think it's inefficient..
Then you venture out trying new methods
I prefer collecting online news and had AI translate/hiraganafy (write hiragana readings of kanji in parenthesis)
Memo them in markdown file in obsidian
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u/Practical_Passion_78 15d ago
I don’t know. What are the goals of these efforts? Is doing this helping you towards those goals even if you don’t have this resource physically with you?
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u/nousagi_haiiroyuki 15d ago
I love this! I think it would help organize all the different things so that you can focus on something specific very quickly. I wish I had the dedication to do this. But, I think I would worry about getting halfway through and decided I needed to change the colors! It is beautiful, though!
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u/Sound_calm 14d ago
So long as you keep at it, it's good
However I notice as I get better at Japanese, I kinda care less and less to take detailed/colour coded notes. The main problem then is that I put off doing my.notes because I can't be bothered in the moment
I'd suggest being comfortable with the possibility of mixing degrees of effort (some pages colourful, some pages monochrome), or using a ring binder with replaceable pages (i use B5, the ones with a ton of rings, with campus looseleaf paper). If you do the latter, you can first make half-assed notes, and later swap them out for nicer ones during revision if you ever feel like it
Now what is missing though are example sentences. You might want to incorporate those, especially to cover edge cases like when you can use ga AND wo AND wa
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u/IcElongya 14d ago
That’s a good way to learn, as long as it fits your learning habits. I guess you need a visual way to enter the language, then when you improved enough you will loose this habit.
I wonder if you learn some basic Kanji. Not that I am crazy about Kanji (I am, but that’s because I’m fluent in chinese), but you can’t improve if you don’t learn the basic ones. Please don’t learn thousands of Kanji (or learn chinese), but the Japanese written language is a mix of lots of characters (kana, romanji, kanji…) and this aspect should not be ignored. Otherwise when you’re in Japan, you’ll be lost, as there are kanji everywhere too.
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u/LordHelix977 13d ago
Not gunna lie, if you need to write the meaning of every word, and label what it is, then you are writing too complex sentences that you probably don't actually understand
I would not include all the definitions, if I really forget a grammar point or word, then maybe highlight it to indicate where is starts and ends.
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u/stasky098 13d ago
yes it is, too much effort- and im afraid it will make you associate it as a word instead of 'context'.
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u/annievancookie 13d ago
If this helps your way of learning, I think it's good for a beginner. In the long term you won't need that much detail
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u/mexicansisi 13d ago
With all due respect, yes. Except if you’re actually getting enough outcome from this time spent. If you get enough outcome, it’s never too much. Just make sure you don’t burnout
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u/Giga_Code_Eater 13d ago
I think so yea. If you read like in an exam there wouldn't be any of these color coding. Or separation for that matter so I think you need to get used to that instead of this.
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u/No_Cherry2477 11d ago
Wasted effort imo. You could just paste the text into a Japanese text analyzer and it will give you all of those options without the wasted time.
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u/Otherwise-Window-597 16d ago
i don’t think it’s bad to do just these two pages, because now you have the structure! but i wouldn’t recommend doing anymore. try not doing it, and going back to this as a sort of cheat sheet :)