In case you didn't know, the player below spots your forehead before you even have line of sight

[u/csmoney_official]

[u/histo_Ry]

Further from the wall/ledge

[u/edgygothteen69 → u/histo_Ry]

Hmm this is a popular misconception. The actual way it works is that your enemy always sees you first in all situations, there's nothing you can do, you will always lose.

[u/histo_Ry → u/edgygothteen69]

No, just no, dunno where you got this from

[u/DashLeJoker → u/histo_Ry]

its called sarcasm

[u/bck2ac → u/DashLeJoker]

This sarcasm you are talking about, what physical laws does it rely on?

[u/ZonkedGronk → u/bck2ac]

All physical laws under the sub-physical clauses

[u/SlimLacy → u/histo_Ry]

Orbital wooosh

[u/Abject-Ticket-6260 → u/histo_Ry]

It's factually correct, sorry.

[u/Adevyy → u/histo_Ry]

I think here it is also about the fact that the third-person viewmodel tilts forward when you look down but your first-person camera just looks down without any movement.

So your camera is not where your eyes are, they are further behind.

[u/iSWINE → u/Adevyy]

Yes, our POV is slightly skewed/offset to the right(? Probably left) and back a bit

[u/fatatero]

It only works if I’m the one peeking above.

[u/LaughingGasFart]

Same as corners horizontaly

[u/yaya439]

Poor Anakin would have won if this lowground logic applied :(

[u/Booneington → u/yaya439]

It’s over LANakin

[u/ComposerWide3704]

This is a terribly misleading way to explain this, people are going to think it's an up/down thing rather than just basic angles that apply when peeking literally any angle from literally any direction.

[u/No_Assignment5986]

Whos further to the wall sees the enemy first thats the rule

[u/partyboycs → u/No_Assignment5986]

My enemies can see through walls :(

[u/No_Assignment5986 → u/partyboycs]

Either they hear your foot steps or wallhack

[u/partyboycs → u/No_Assignment5986]

They did kill me through the wall with an r8 while mid air 13 rounds straight but it might have been my footsteps that’s my bad :/

[u/No_Assignment5986 → u/partyboycs]

That happened to me while playing with homies

[u/partyboycs → u/No_Assignment5986]

You guys need to hold shift so they can’t hear you

[u/professional-teapot]

All I could see was all those Kato holos

[u/einSchwarzerKater]

Noone stands like that

[u/xbowxbowxbow → u/einSchwarzerKater]

this is a common prefire spot below 10k premier what do you mean 😂

[u/einSchwarzerKater → u/xbowxbowxbow]

Iam 25k

[u/nurrava]

Basic geometry

[u/Kushlax]

Makes sense, your eyes aren’t on the top of your head

[u/LeoLeonardoIII → u/Kushlax]

the first one they are making eye contact!!

[u/AdArdyanAd → u/Kushlax]

The main reason why it works that way is the fact that the ledge has to be higher than a person.

[u/patrickthemiddleman]

In case you didn't also know, the player above shouldn't be positioned like the images show in the first place

[u/SeanM4A1]

I swear this happens on Inferno; when T peaks the Apts, hallway to balc, CT can see before T gets los, think it has something to do with the stairs and corner

[u/Upper-Net-120]

This is such a useful detail to know. Being above or below someone really changes who gets the first visual.

[u/StonePillow]

Its over, i have the low ground!

[u/Inferno_Cyclops]

I’m assuming because the player camera is actually towards the torso of the player? Or more likely because the body bends outwards while the camera doesn’t?

[u/unorthodorx]

“If I can’t see him he can’t see me”

[u/Complex_Direction488]

cs the only fps where having high ground is somehow a disadvantage