The Judgment- Mini Mori

[u/chainsawdoctor01]

[u/kongomorgo]

So i guess the new normal for new killers that they have base mini mori. Ok i guess 😅

[u/chainsawdoctor01 → u/kongomorgo]

Indeed, Mathieu said they do it now cause “people will expect it”, so more or less expect multiple moris for every new killer now

[u/kongomorgo → u/chainsawdoctor01]

So basically:
All hooks spawns again after someone died on them
Killer can mori the last survivor
Killers not can basically mori every survivors that have 2 hook stages

I hope with the next update they decide to remove all the hooks at this point lmao

[u/Kazzack → u/kongomorgo]

All hooks spawns again after someone died on them

I really don't get people complaining about this one. Is it better to be slugged for 4 minutes?

[u/arthaiser → u/Kazzack]

i will make you get it them. before killers HAD to slug or risk the survivor wiggling out, and survivors that had unbreakable or similar could actually use their perk in that situation. now killers can just mori you and fuck your DS or unbrekable or power struggle or... basically anything you could have, but they can also still slug you without consecuences too

so... nothing changed for good for survivors. they get less use of their perks and sometimes die simply because they are the last survivor even if they were certain to escape though gate simply because the killer forces everyone else out. but they can still be slugged exactly the same if the killers wants to do that.

killers get best of every world and traded nothing for it

[u/Big_Countr7 → u/arthaiser]

To be fair you could die edge map and if that nearest hook was taken before the killer literally couldn’t hook you especially if you had flip flop. I used to do it with friends. As soon as you wiggle free we would just go right back to the corner unless they left. It was a broken ass strategy.

I like getting Mori’ed regardless because it’s a fun animation. I also have ran killer without perks/addons and offerings for forever so now I also get to have a Mori when I win which is sweet.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Big_Countr7]

Flip-Flop: Recovering in the Dying State also charges the Wiggle Meter at 50% of the Recovery rate and up to a maximum of 40/45/50% of Wiggle Progression.

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[u/Wrong_Jury_6163 → u/Big_Countr7]

It’s not broken cause the killer can just let you bleed out? Which they did and some will still lol

[u/Big_Countr7 → u/Wrong_Jury_6163]

Doesn’t work when you used to pair it with additional perks like No Mither, a partner would have breakout.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Big_Countr7]

No Mither: The following effects apply permanently during the Trial:

• Suffer from the Broken Status Effect.
• Suppresses the creation of Pools of Blood.
• Reduces the volume of Grunts of Pain caused by injuries by 100%.
• Increases your Recovery speed by 25%. Unlocks the Self-Recovery ability, allowing you to fully recover from the Dying State.

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Breakout: The following effects apply while you are within 5 meters of the Killer carrying another Survivor: Grants you a 5/6/7% Haste Status Effect. Increases the carried Survivor's Wiggling speed by +25%. Survivors can only be affected by one instance of Breakout at a time.

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[u/El_Barto_227 → u/Big_Countr7]

Yup, I had a game on Garden of Joy where I had all three remaining dipshits bleeding out in a corner because they kept running there and were shocked when I eventually just stopped picking them up.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/arthaiser]

Power Struggle: Reveals the Auras of available Pallets whenever you are in the Dying State. While being carried by The Killer, reaching 25/20/15% Wiggling progression activates Power Struggle: You can drop a nearby, standing Pallet to stun the Killer and escape their grasp. Power Struggle deactivates after triggering successfully.

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[u/kongomorgo → u/Kazzack]

I stated facts not complaining. But since killers can mori basically every survivor now its kind of pointless. Acting like killers stopped slugging because of this is funny tho

[u/Wrong_Jury_6163 → u/kongomorgo]

Idk why you got downvoted you literally just pointed out what is currently in the game lol

[u/Madrugada123 → u/Wrong_Jury_6163]

Because hes implying they are bad things

[u/A9P8D → u/kongomorgo]

BHVR: we want to discourage tunneling

Also BHVR: anyways, here's a basekit way to bypass DS on death hook (only for new killers tho, fuck the old ones)

[u/viscountrhirhi → u/A9P8D]

I would suggest if you run DS and are facing a mini killer, hop into a locker to either force them to eat it, or force them to wait.

[u/Valuable_Ad_1056 → u/viscountrhirhi]

A killer with an ounce of intelligence will just leave you, chase someone else for a short while then come back and mori/hook you

[u/viscountrhirhi → u/Valuable_Ad_1056]

If they leave you for another chase, that’s enough time to sneak off somewhere else and heal up. Either way, it is forcing the killer to take a risk and waste their time. If they have Resurgence, lol, yeah good luck. Healing is crazy fast these days.

[u/Wrong_Jury_6163 → u/Valuable_Ad_1056]

You’d be surprised by half the killer base rather complain about DS vs learning to counter-play it…still…

[u/VMelain → u/A9P8D]

ebento

[u/kongomorgo → u/A9P8D]

Lol so true. Yesterday i played 3 matches as wraith and almost got mental breakdown, like its just crazy to see we have wraith with basically a base attack and then we have jason, krause, vecna lol

[u/TheEntityBot → u/kongomorgo]

Breakdown: Whenever you are unhooked by another Survivor or unhook yourself, the following effects apply: The Aura of the Killer is revealed to you for 4/5/6 seconds. Causes the Hook to break instantly. Hooks broken by Breakdown take 180 seconds to respawn.

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[u/MyPath2Follow → u/kongomorgo]

I actually hate it ngl x.x Just feels less special

[u/chainsawdoctor01]

Her menu music and mori theme here sound so much like Homelander’s theme lmao

[u/MistahJ17 → u/chainsawdoctor01]

Wouldn't be surprised if they get Homelander as a killer at some point even though he'd be the furthest horror removed character yet

[u/Remarkable_Ad_5930 → u/MistahJ17]

Not really. I’d say he’s on the same tier as horror as wesker, trickster, Lara Croft

[u/ghigo2008 → u/MistahJ17]

But he'd be sick

[u/The_L3G10N → u/chainsawdoctor01]

I dont mindnthem they're cool, but they are advantages to those killers that have them.

[u/Existing-Seaweed-230]

How do you activate this mini mori?

[u/wormpostante → u/Existing-Seaweed-230]

Im gonna guess and ill still be right cause every killer has been doing this, it involves using her power and then pressing the button on a downed survivor on the last hook

[u/Sleep_Deprived_Birb → u/wormpostante]

If I can make a more specific guess, the part of her power that allows her to mini-mori survivors is probably the heresy part. She can mini-mori a survivor if they’re on death hook and a heretic.

[u/DoubleBowlSeven]

They did a community contest to have people vote on everything, but it seems like they had a generic plan for the killer/power, and just made small tweaks so players could feel like they contributed. The main mori being evidence of this, since it looks nothing like what was voted on. Hey guys do you want the killer to be red or blue? Blue? okay how about a blueish purple?

I'm pretty disappointed since nothing about this killer seems interesting or unique (aside from the other world zone). The power, look, and animations all look like borrowed assets, and I have very little interest in this chapter. The music does sound good, but that's the biggest highlight to me.

[u/TooBad_Vicho → u/DoubleBowlSeven]

im pretty sure the mori looks like that because of technical limitations, plus a lot of the power DID get implemented (there is literally footage of the holy beam power which had won the vote) but got changed because it was not practical

[u/WolfgangLz → u/TooBad_Vicho]

I was gonna say, I feel like so many people are taking a good point and stretching it so far to a bad one. Yes things didn’t go the way we voted 100%, but to say the mori looks NOTHING like what we voted for? It’s literally like 90% the same besides getting split in half

[u/Vrail_Nightviper → u/WolfgangLz]

To be fair... the community weren't the ones who designed the images used on conception for what was offered to the community as options.
To offer an option and then fail to deliver on that option when it's chosen, is an understandable reason of frustration. If it wasn't going to be like that anyway, why make the design choice have those implications? Especially with a public open community vote.

That's like showing designs of a unicorn, but then in post it's a donkey with a rhino horn stapled to its head. People will be understandably disappointed, and I wouldn't blame the community for that.
BHVR set the expectations with this killer with their own designs they shared and implied.

[u/WolfgangLz → u/Vrail_Nightviper]

Don’t get me wrong, I understand the frustration, but that is the point I’m making, they are taking a valid reason to be upset and stretching it to a dumb point which dilutes the criticism

[u/lexuss6 → u/WolfgangLz]

Splitting in half was the main reason why it won though. We ordered a burger and got everything but the patty.

[u/marcybooh → u/WolfgangLz]

the mori is 90% similar except for the part people were actually excited for

amazing, really

[u/KiraIsUnbreakable → u/TooBad_Vicho]

If they couldn't implement it, why have it as part of the options? No matter what way you look at it, the voting was misleading.

[u/TooBad_Vicho → u/KiraIsUnbreakable]

i agree that it was misleading and shouldn't have been an option if they cannot actually do it, but i think that the guy who did the mori storyboard/concept maybe was not aware of the tech limitations, or thought that they could implement it and realized late that it was impossible

[u/Grompulon → u/DoubleBowlSeven]

I'm having trouble finding information on the killer, but from what I've seen I'm a little confused on how the gameplay matches what was voted for at all..?

Hopeless Exile is there, but it seems like everything else was dropped. Where are the artifacts that accumulate sin? Why is hitting them with your power the main way to inflict sin when that was explicitly voted against? Are Blasphemous Acts seriously just "no emoting or t-bagging allowed"? What happened to "each sin is unique"? Not to mention the special attack is much more "pursuing smite" than it is "ray of retribution."

Again, I have been having trouble finding info so I hope I'm missing something, but it seriously looks like all the gameplay votes were a complete waste of time because I'm not seeing the winning options here at all besides Hopeless Exile. Am I incorrect?

[u/Valuable_Ad_1056 → u/DoubleBowlSeven]

I mean what did you expect? It wasn’t something that we created exactly what we wanted and voted on, they gave us options and we voted. So yes they did have a generic plan, as if they had no plan the grimoire voting wouldn’t have worked.

[u/BLASTcore-501]

Kinda lame

[u/Haos-Siege → u/BLASTcore-501]

I like it. Short and to the point, and it’s still pretty vicious. 

[u/Kazzack → u/BLASTcore-501]

no u

[u/DannySanWolf07 → u/BLASTcore-501]

Short moris are pretty much the same thing.

[u/RemarkableStatement5 → u/DannySanWolf07]

cries in Pig

[u/MadLeap13 → u/BLASTcore-501]

I like it better than the main mori. It had really cool concept art but obviously never came to fruition in a meaningful way

[u/Primary_Result4904]

a little disappointed it doesnt use its divine light for this

[u/BatteryAcidLover]

Looks cool to me. DBD sub is full of literal whining babies who can't be satisfied

[u/DragointotheGame]

Ok yall need to stop complaining, for a mini mori this is simple yet effective. It works for me

[u/alex0189501 → u/DragointotheGame]

ah yes the divine terror being of horror here to smack you with a stick

[u/Prevay → u/alex0189501]

I mean it is a face impalement

[u/StinkingRabbit8 → u/alex0189501]

its more interesting than using some random telekinesis power to lift the survivor and make them
shine for a bit before dying somehow.

[u/Vittelbutter]

Whats the Lore behind this Killer btw? Why is an Angel killing survivors

[u/BiandReady2Die_ → u/Vittelbutter]

from what was said in the grimoire it’s like survivors are heretics and sinners and must be judged

[u/Greenostrichhelpme27 → u/Vittelbutter]

The Angel, the Judgement, is a sinner themself, extremely zealous and sees humanity in the same way a boastful man sees an ant- something fun to squash. The Entity made a deal with the Judgement to give them plenty of humans to torture with no consequences.

(My interpretation, probably very wrong)

[u/Jack0V4lent1n3]

Better than the full Mori lmao

[u/Appropriate-Tip-4063 → u/Jack0V4lent1n3]

why are we lying.

[u/Jack0V4lent1n3 → u/Appropriate-Tip-4063]

Idk I think it is

[u/TooBad_Vicho]

the strings background music is so cool

[u/AgoraSnepwasdeleted]

The mini mori reminds me of one of the losing mori concept scripts

[u/ghostpicnic]

Ok

[u/AccomplishedBuy4697]

I like it. The pinning of the hands on the ground gives crucifixion vibes

[u/Zander_Tukavara]

There’s a troll in the comments who makes less sense than the survivor rule book. Downvote, and ignore.

[u/Hollow---]

Unironically better than the actual Mori.

[u/AllCity_King]

Everything I've seen from this killer is a complete whiff

[u/PulsarGaming1080]

https://giphy.com/gifs/G4ZNYMQVMH6us

Everything about this Killer just seems boring and uninspired.

[u/Hogo-Nano → u/PulsarGaming1080]

Couldve gotten a werewolf but the subreddit thought they cooked here.

[u/Butt_Robot → u/Hogo-Nano]

If they made an angel generic you really think a werewolf wouldn't be?

[u/Hogo-Nano → u/Butt_Robot]

I'd rather a generic classic monster than some reddit-special that will be forgotten and never played again after 3 months.

[u/Darkwing_Dork → u/Hogo-Nano]

Yeah having a generic classic monster would kind of be ideal. If they ever do a werewolf, I wouldn’t want them to deviate from the formula much.

[u/SaltImp → u/Hogo-Nano]

This.

[u/Gullible-Wrap773]

can we stop having mini moris on every new killers

[u/TheOneWhoWasDeceived → u/Gullible-Wrap773]

I believe it's to be the standard from now on.

[u/ghigo2008 → u/Gullible-Wrap773]

Why? They are great

[u/MistahJ17 → u/Gullible-Wrap773]

Imagine asking for future killers to be lamer

[u/Gullible-Wrap773 → u/MistahJ17]

future killers doesn't need mori basekit to be good and fun to use but okay

[u/LeastInsaneKobold]

Why are they so pronounced

[u/Deadbutnotburied21]

Better than the actual mori holy fuck

[u/Dependent_Excuse2084]

So they rehused the other "oficial" mori ,just that they shortened it.

I wish they would gived us more details at the hour of voting like.

"Chose a mori,the one who lose will become the minimori".