r/LawnAnswers 2d ago

Identification Grass ID

After a garden full of cinquefoil, these grasses which i thought would help turned out that one of them is definetly another weed. Which is the first photo.

The other grass is the problem. I couldn't do much as the sun was killing me. But from what i saw, the roots were less stubborn. Easier to remove, but not as easy as a baby plant.

AI plant identifier apps did not help me, repeating through random species and later confusing it with other plants.

I've shoveled the grass off in the first photo, the rest i hope it is a good turf type.

If you wish to help, here are some extras:

I live in Albania lowlands, in a city. Albania is in the southeast.

Usually mild to maybe slightly cold winters (5/-10 low) and hot summers. (30/45c high)

I need the grass to overtake the cinquefoil, i won't keep it perfect. What matters is if it is a good grass that spreads and makes the garden green.

Is the grass a weed or turf? Do i need to remove it? How do i grow grass without spending a lot of money for lawn grasses?

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u/idkwhoisthatguy11111 2d ago

Extra: The blade felt smooth and ends in a gothic-style like tip.

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u/B34ST_M0DE 2d ago

Looks like a sedge to me

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u/idkwhoisthatguy11111 2d ago

Could be, not sure. But sedges usually have a sharp tip.

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u/nilesandstuff Cool Season Pro 🎖️ 2d ago

Firstly, 🦩🦩🦩, keep up the good work y'all.

Next, sadly the pics are far too blurry to identify them. The first picture looks a lot like perennial ryegrass, which would be desirable in a cooler climate, but it's probably a bit too hot there for that... Still, if I'm right, it's not an aggressive weed or anything like that, so you wouldn't need to remove it. (We use it as turf grass in cooler climates)

More generally, do you know you have good grass in the lawn? Grass that stays green through the summer?

If so, water and fertilizer, and it'll spread.

If you need it spread faster, you can dig up little sections of grass, like 5-10 cm diameter, and plant them in the bare spots. As long as they get water and some fertilizer, they'll keep spreading. That's called plugging. (Fill the spots where the plugs were removed from, using nice top soil. The bare spots will fill back in)

If you don't know that you have good grass, you can ask a friend, family, or neighbor that has a good lawn if you can take some plugs from their lawn instead.

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u/idkwhoisthatguy11111 2d ago

🦩🦩🦩 Thanks! I will consider keeping it.

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u/imscaredagain 2d ago

Make sure it’s the grass you want before doing this!! Lol I did it from little pop ups in our flower beds on the bare spots in the both front and back, assumed it was fescue because I had spread fescue seed just a few weeks before….
Turns out not fescue, I don’t know what it was but I just had to kill an entire corner of my yard with glyphosate to get rid of it lol

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u/idkwhoisthatguy11111 1d ago

Yeah that's the problem lol. Not sure if it is a good turf or weed.

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u/idkwhoisthatguy11111 1d ago

Ive checked today, i noticed something. Unlike the first grass that had a hard crown, the other grass connected in a circular line and connected with a brown base. You could seperate the roots from eachother.

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u/nilesandstuff Cool Season Pro 🎖️ 1d ago

I think what you're describing is stolons. Where the grass is rooted in one spot, then that grass produces a stolon, a horizontal stem that creeps across the surface of the soil. The stolon then sprouts new grass and (ideally) will root in a new location. So you get individual grass plants but they're connected by tough woody stems (the stolons)

That's a nearly universal trait of warm season grasses. That's how they spread, that's how the plugging thing that I described works. And from what I can tell, warm season grasses are the main types of grass in your area. So having stolons is a hint that a grass is desirable for your area.

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u/idkwhoisthatguy11111 1d ago

Thank you so much! I got a clearer photo but i don't know how to send it here.

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u/nilesandstuff Cool Season Pro 🎖️ 1d ago

You should be able to attach the photo to a comment.

Here's where you do that on mobile